How do you feel about people playing under the influence of drugs?

[Zogarth]

So once the system allows you to smoke marihuana, it's suddenly okay with you? Seems to me like you're more afraid of the law system than the actual deed (and reason why they do it) itself.


I guess I sort of get what you mean, and I also know that it's wrong.

The stereotypical image of person that smokes weed is a lazy do-no-gooder screw up. Usually someone who has to smoke it in prescription solely does it for medical reasons, is what the stereotypical image is. What if those with prescription enjoy the drug just as much as non-prescription smokers? What would be different then?

I don't really care if it is illegal or legal. I also avoid normal smokers and drunks. Also i truly doubt marijuana will ever get legal in Denmark. Also if you are smoking weed, I see no reason why I should find out over the internet. The only way I should is by you being oblivious or by you being so damn stoned that it is apparent. Some of the people I play with in-game may be smoking weed, but if I don't know, they must be doing it in moderation.

Also, if something is given by prescription we know that it has been tested and that it is made sure what exactly it does to your body. And if you are given medicine, only take as much as you have been told, never self-dose how much you think you need. If you feel that you need more, contact your doctor. There is most likely a reason why you were told not to take it as much as you feel like.

[Pengalor]

I guess that would end up in a pretty bad trip, thinking garrosh would execute your ass right away
Im heading of now, I really enjoyed our conversation. Expecially to hear "the other side".
Also respect that you, even if you don't like drugs, you maintain yourself and bring up facts to back up your arguments.

Ditto, always nice to have a reasonable discussion, don't see that much on these forums anymore. Have a good one!

[Donald Hellscream]

I don't care if people are drunk or high while raiding as long as they do their job properly.

[Deleted]

Aslong as they perform optimally it doesn't really matter.

However, I have been known to have a drink or two during altruns, and I can honestly say I was not performing optimally.

[Deleted]

Actually, you're not normal again after the effects of XTC/MDMA are over. It takes a few days to recharge to your usual level of dopamine in your brains.


Also, the whole 'one love' is just a myth. I've done acid plenty of times, with people who have done it countless of times, and I think it's safe to say that they're still the same hard working, and down to earth people as they were before they started doing it. I've seen the 'one love' people though. I wouldn't say it's solely thanks to the acid that they became this way. For some people it's the gateway they've always been looking for.

I wouldn't count the dopamine/serotonine recharge as "not normal" as long as I had my sleep im no different then before. But that may just be me, I know friends who are depresive 1-2 days afterwards.

on acid: you're deciding what it does to you - some use it for thinking about life universe bla, those are the people wo tend to go the onelove way. Visit O.Z.O.R.A. there are many many many of these ones. (no offense to them, they're awesome!) Or you just use it for those awesome hallucinations - the hallucinations are the "safer" way.

Just my opinion

[sourmonkey]

eh its personal preference tbh , i do not care if you want to get blitzed and play a game . Just don't carry over your ignorance into my part of the game no one cares how big a bowl you roasted either hold aggro, dps ,or heal .

[EqualWin]

idk, I just smoke weed and I also have other friends that do it, I find it pretty hilarious when we do arenas and stuff in wow way better than being sober and bitchy (if u care about winning like I do when I'm sober)

[xindralol]

doesn't concern me. many people are retards even when they're sober, so it doesn't really make a difference.

[torment3d]

Well if you are some junky snorting/smoking/injecting then kindly do it on your own time. If its a quick smoke of Mary Jane then fill your boots.

That's nice. A quick smoke of mary jane makes me a fucking retard in game. A quick injection of a few bags of heroin makes me a more focused player. A quick injection of 200 mgs of cocaine makes me a WAY more focused player.

Even further than that, I'll admit that while I was raiding in a very high end guild, I was addicted to heroin the entire time. Since I've been in outpatient treatment I haven't been focused or motivated enough to even be able to raid.

[EqualWin]

That's nice. A quick smoke of mary jane makes me a fucking retard in game. A quick injection of a few bags of heroin makes me a more focused player. A quick injection of 200 mgs of cocaine makes me a WAY more focused player.

Even further than that, I'll admit that while I was raiding in a very high end guild, I was addicted to heroin the entire time. Since I've been in outpatient treatment I haven't been focused or motivated enough to even be able to raid.

true!!

but it isn't worth it, smoking weed and fking up is rofl it depends on your mood tho sometimes when I'm high I focus a lot still not as good like playing sober but it's fun, I usually smoke when I'm studying it helps me a lot and it's fun to do math and stuff imo



I did lsd like 3 times already which is ok nothing awesome but I did crystal (not meth but close I guess?) once and it was pretty damn awesome feel like a boss.. thank god I don't have money nor a job to buy that stuff rofl.

[Rampant Rabbit]

I wouldn't count the dopamine/serotonine recharge as "not normal" as long as I had my sleep im no different then before. But that may just be me, I know friends who are depresive 1-2 days afterwards.

on acid: you're deciding what it does to you - some use it for thinking about life universe bla, those are the people wo tend to go the onelove way. Visit O.Z.O.R.A. there are many many many of these ones. (no offense to them, they're awesome!) Or you just use it for those awesome hallucinations - the hallucinations are the "safer" way.

Just my opinion

Yeah, I agree. I mainly do it for the awesome time I get to have with the hallucinations. When and if I choose to do it, I usually do it at a party or festival. I just love how deep the music becomes because of it, and it sounds so much more massive, and better than when you listen to your music at home.

[MestHoop]

I live in the Netherlands and have been in a leading position in raids ever since wrath (raided since vanilla, but did not lead raids).
Before I start on my own usage, I want to make a clear distinction of what people call "Drugs". Technically, lots of people play WoW on drugs. What OP implies I think are substances like THC, XTC, cocaine, etc. I know people who do (what we Dutch define as) "hard-drugs" (MDMA, ketamine, speed, etc.) and I would not want to play with anyone who uses such drugs while playing WoW, mostly because they'd either not be able to play the game or become REALLY annoying.

So let's more on to less altering (and more common) drugs: THC and alcohol.
I personally smoke weed pretty much every time I raid. I smoke once before the raid and generally once during the break. The guilds I've been in since Wrath have not always been super-hardcore, but I have always been in guilds which aim to progress as far as we can in heroic content while it is relevant (usually in the top10 of server progression).
I have been open about my situation, but never bragged about it like people have been mentioning in this thread (like "smoke e'rryday yo!"). In general the response has been fine and eventually it turned into somewhat of a joke among officers (I was generally the go-to guy to yell at people when it was needed to wake them up. If I ever was too annoyed they'd tell me to go smoke some weed to calm down).

Now, in my situation I can just walk out of my apartment and have a smoke there. Usage of drugs like weed and hash (in other words: THC containing substances) are legal in the Netherlands, so I do not need to exert pressure on my guild in any way (like "OMG the cops are on my ass"). I have lived abroad and in those cases I never touched the stuff. I like to use it to relax, and raiding in WoW is one of my primary times to relax. Never had problems of staying focused, because when shit hits the fan and I need to step up (especially raidleading) I tend to just snap out of the high and natural leadership takes over.
As for people in my groups: No matter the substance, people acting cool about it are annoying to begin with. It doesn't even matter if they even use it or not. People too screwed up (this is more likely in the case of alcohol from personal experience) often are swiftly kicked and replaced. In those cases it doesn't matter to me what their mental state is, it matters to me if they can play or not. If they can? No problem. If they can't? Then don't blame the substance, you only have yourself to blame.

As for the secondary discussion going on here: I'm gonna stay out of it entirely. I have my own perspectives (some drugs illegal in most countries don't deserve it and some drugs legal in most countries don't deserve that either), but it seems most people here have emotionally laden responses due to personal experiences with drug related issues. Nothing I will say will change those people, not will it change the people who are pro-drugs no matter what. I think those perspectives are just as wrong as the people who are anti-drugs no matter what.

[Deleted]

As long as it doesen't impact the way you play I couldn't care less, but a healer letting you die and going ''I'm so high right now'' gets tiring after a while...

[Weightlifter]

I still remember wiping on heroic Elegon because the tank was stoned like a kite and didn't manage to move out of the platform in time.

[Skez]

I used to smoke weed a while back, for several years. But I never raided high because I know my performance dropped so much, I tried once but didn't enjoy it. Doing dungeons and other stuff tho was no problem.
In patch 3.1 (Ulduar) I played with a lot of real life friends and we used to get high and play hide and seek in Dalaran, which was awesome at the time. We tried again a few years later, sober, but it was just boring...

I have a few friends who had no problem at all playing stoned, the opposite in fact, their performance increased most of the times when they raided stoned.

Anyhow, I don't care if the someone is injecting heroin or drinking blood as long as the he or she perform as they should.

The Story About the Drunk Rogue
Once upon a time there was a troll who used to sneak up behind his foes and stick the knife in their backs. This said rogue enjoyed a drink or five from time to time.

His performance in an ICC raid once were so low that the Guild Master became upset with him. But his final glory were shown to us in the end of the evening when we had slain The Lich King and said rogue said, "Guys, I can't release, the button is grey." and no one responded since they believed he was just trying to be funny with the by then old and boring joke about being dead.

But suddenly the buttons turn active and he says in a drunk but happy voice, "Oh guys, now it worked guys, I'm on my way back in.".

No one had yet realized that we was being very serious so when someone spotted him as a ghost in the raid unit frames that person started laughing, and someone else started laughing and then everyone started laughing. Someone pointed out to him that that was proof enough that he shouldn't be raiding with us and that just made him mad.

Said rogue started a short rant about how he now missed all the shiny loot and that he wasn't happy with this... and then people laughed again... and then he left the raid.

About this story, personally I think it serves him right, his performance the whole raid were sinking with each boss and that thing at the end of the evening just showed us how bad he played when he drinks. The video of this event is somewhere on YouTube but I can't find it, it's completely hilarious!

Found the video! But it's in Swedish so I apologize to the other people!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k40kfgKD6d0

[Fenixdown]

If they can play without being a full on retard, sure it's fine.

Find me ten that can, though, and I'll find you about a thousand that can't.

[torment3d]

The big point I think I'd like to make, now, is this. ITT: people that don't know what drugs do. ITG (in the game): People that say they're drunk as an excuse to play like shit.

[MestHoop]

The big point I think I'd like to make, now, is this. ITT: people that don't know what drugs do. ITG (in the game): People that say they're drunk as an excuse to play like shit.

Haha, word up
Can't blame the masses for not knowing what each drug does though. So much misinformation spreading about that stuff that it's hard to find any reliable information (aside from actual scientific research, but the majority of people wouldn't know what classifies a scientific article from a normal one).

[Transmigration]

It depends on the drug. I used to play on coke a lot in my early 20's, but that didn't have a negative effect on my ability to react (if anything it enhanced it). I don't want to play with some kid that keeps saying "I'm too high to tank this..." or "Man, I'm drunk as fuck.." and pulls the whole damn room on accident.

It depends on the individual too. Some people are so used to being drunk/high/stoned, that it doesn't really affect their ability to play properly. In which case, I don't really mind. Just shut up about it. You don't need to broadcast what you're on to look rad. It makes you come off as dork actually.

[torment3d]

One time when I was 12 I gave my friend some oregano and told him it was weed. He smoked some out of a joint I rolled for him and then when I asked if he was high yet, he started running in circles really fast screaming at the top of his lungs. This is what I picture when the average dumbass tells me he's "so high" in game.