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  1. #201
    Ye I don't like it either. It's useful for the 200 valor weekly quest. Celestial tournament was a good idea but i've now got all 4 pets and you need 3 tokens (3 weeks worth) to buy 1 flawless pet battle stone which is just ridiculous.... So there's barely any reason to do Celestial tournament anymore.

    After a week when you've seen all the little events there's really nothing to do other than trying to find rares (either by camping or the pure luck of being within 100 yards of where they spawn for the 30 seconds they are up)...

    Even when you find a rare mob, the pets they drop only have about a 2-3% drop chance to be there and when the rares have an hour long respawn timer that's a lot of camping...(I checked wowhead for drop chance of the pets from Bufo, Garnia and Jadefire spirit)

    I assume it's similair for all the other bigger bag achievement items which makes it basically impossible to complete unless you are prepared to spend about 500 hours on that stupid island camping.

  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by Jessicka View Post
    Has 'lack of plot and structure' not been repeated enough?
    It's not really supposed to. T.I had a plot as the mysterious island that noone knew about. It has plenty of structure for what it is. Remember it was mainly for the Devs to get practice making that style of content and mainly as a catch up mechanic. Again there's no reason they can't merge TI style with your standard daily isle style.
    Last edited by Brandon138; 2013-12-02 at 06:55 AM.

  3. #203
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    I think timeless isle is brilliant, I have done too many dailies, nearly 5000.

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    Poll on frontpage would indicate that 50% actually like the Timeless Isle as their preferred daily PVE content area, all other patches get way lower votes. Of course this can be skewed somewhat towards Timeless Isle due to the fact you can get easy epic gear for alts, but still....

  5. #205
    Quote Originally Posted by velde046 View Post
    Poll on frontpage would indicate that 50% actually like the Timeless Isle as their preferred daily PVE content area, all other patches get way lower votes. Of course this can be skewed somewhat towards Timeless Isle due to the fact you can get easy epic gear for alts, but still....
    Look at this way, 50% other ppl didnt like it. As many has stated, collecting 50 epoc stones r probably most attracting event, as it rewards with 200 VP and one daily worth 50 VP. Thats all.

  6. #206
    Quote Originally Posted by velde046 View Post
    Poll on frontpage would indicate that 50% actually like the Timeless Isle as their preferred daily PVE content area, all other patches get way lower votes. Of course this can be skewed somewhat towards Timeless Isle due to the fact you can get easy epic gear for alts, but still....
    They've always implemented some form of "catch-up" regarding epic gear whether it be a hub like Timeless Isle or Icecrown Citadel instances at the end of WotLK. I'd be interested in seeing which style of attaining that "catch-up" gear most players prefer.

  7. #207
    It was ok for about an hour. As a model for future questing and grouping, it scares me a bit, it would be ok in small doses but nothing more.

    Also I think design wise, whisking us away to an island is lazy. Yes Lazy. Why? It's a new territory. They do the same with the expansions and then make the landmass mean very little or nothing. For example, when you hit 80, you go to Dalaran and stand around for 2 years. Forget the beautiful land they made where you did all the adventuring, it's moot. Really sad. And they did this with these 2 islands. No 3, you have to also count the island with the dinos.

  8. #208
    It's not perfect but I enjoy it.

  9. #209
    Quote Originally Posted by Battlebeard View Post
    The biggest turd ever laid
    I speak of course about "Going to Need a Bigger Bag". This is an abomination to mankind. What kind of sadistic, sick people came up with this one. This achievement require you to collect a trillion rare items which mainly drop from the rares, which I already mentioned, are almost always dead. The drop rate varies from below 1% to 4% or so for most items. I have only seen a few people in the world who has done this and these people are top 50 worldwide achievement collectors as well. I am not saying it should be easy, but this goes to far. Never has I seen in Any game I ever played an achievement this stupid. It forces those who care for achievements to spend hundreds and hundreds of hours on this island doing the very same thing, running between rares and hoping for that item. An insane grind based on RNG... How could they have come up with this? I can't find more words of hate for this achievement but anyone who is going for it will see that it's a living hell.
    I don't agree with everything you said but this is very true.
    Worst imho is that this achievement ISN'T ACCOUNT WIDE !
    I was lucky enough for the huolon mount to drop on one of my alts (hourra), but it's with my main that i spend most of the time on the island, my main got maybe 30% items of this achievement (most of them are the most common of course), but now i have to grind Huolon again to get the mount for the achiv, even if i already have the mount !
    Of course this isle is made for alts: you will go there multiple time to gear everyone, get the chests multiple time etc. So why not make this achiv account wide ? Stupid design.

  10. #210
    You know the achievement isn't mandatory correct?

  11. #211
    OP has a wrong opinion.

    Best thing they added this expansion. Maybe even the last 2 expansions.

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    You make some good points. Despite that many players seem to enjoy the isle (even I do but it's declining). I think it was a good way to catch up alts. I do not play it on pvp server though so I cannot talk about that experience.
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  13. #213
    Quote Originally Posted by bionics View Post
    I'd be interested in seeing which style of attaining that "catch-up" gear most players prefer.
    My idea of an catch-up:

    - increase chance of loot in LFR every raid patch (so for 5.0 raids -> 5.0 10% chance -> 5.2 50% chance -> 5.4 90% chance)
    - increase chance of bonus loot every raid patch (so for 5.0 raids -> 5.0 10% chance -> 5.2 40% chance -> 5.4 70% chance)
    - increase number of loot items in nhc/hc mode every raid patch (so for 5.0 raids -> 5.0 2/6 items -> 5.2 3/9 items -> 5.4 4/12 items)
    - change upgrade system I (item level threshold increases so you can upgrade old items with justice points instead of valor points -> 5.0 use justice up to 458 items -> 5.2 use justice up to 496 items -> 5.4 use justice up to 522 items)
    - change upgrade system II (items upgradable with justice should be upgradable two times resulting in 16 more item level)
    - daily box from heroic scenario or challenge mode should be on par with current lfr item level
    - give rares a change to drop a random lfr tier token of current lfr (~1%, personal loot)
    - give dungeon end bosses a change to drop a random lfr item of current lfr (~1%, personal loot)

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    I went to the island for the cloak after I got that sorted I never went back again.

  15. #215
    Quote Originally Posted by FBWA View Post
    Biggest turd ever Laid? I take it you never have played friday the 13th on NES?

    E.T. for the Atari 2600 would like to take the cake on that one. I mean they made 5 million copies, sold 1.5 million, and had the rest thrown into a landfill somewhere. Timeless Isle is nowhere near that bad. It's just like grinding dailies nearly endlessly, it gets boring after a while.

  16. #216
    I disliked the island at first, but I've since warmed up to the idea.

    Here's some changes I'd make to the Island to make it a little better:

    1. Make some chests respawn on a daily basis instead of the same old 5 chests respawning weekly. And I mean, make like 10 random ones respawn, not two

    2. Add optional dailies that only award Timless Coins for people who dislike grinding mobs. Don't make them award Valor or reputation, that makes people feel like they have to do them.

    3. Add single-person scenarios like the chest-opening one. It was awesome. Other games have all sorts of jumping puzzles, regular puzzles etc. all great candidates for scenarios

    4. Add more hints at the events or perhaps NPCs that talk about them. A lot of people who don't keep up with MMO champion or WoWhead don't even know they exist

    Some things that are already good:

    1. the rare system, love it

    2. the elite mobs that incentivize grouping

    3. the events, very fun!

    4. the fun mechanics like the Scary Sprite summoning crystal

  17. #217
    I came back to wow after leaving before DS, had no idea what to do after I hit 90 as lfr was way out of my ilevel. And then I friend (who is a raider and has tons of gear) just told me to meet him at the timeless isle and he'd help gear me so I'd be ready for lfr.

    And it happened.

    And it was pretty fucking cool.

    I guess the point is Blizz has a lot of different reasons for the Timeless Isle, so casuals or newcomers or returning players (such as myself) can catch up and experience everything, but then they have to add achievements and desirable items for the hardcore player to also enjoy timeless isle. Design-wise, I can't disagree with Blizzard, it was awesome.
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    Timeless Isle was one of the best things added to the game imo.

  19. #219
    I hope that all 100lvl zones in WoD will be based on TI - couple of weeklies and rest about exploration. More stuff like the jumping "puzzles", Highwind Albatross, Dread Ship Vazuvious... And don't forget the consumables!

    One thing I agree on with OP - that place is terribly overspawned. It's fine when you play on "Locked" server which bursts with players, but if you play on medium or lower, you get constantly dismounted. That place should have had some paths just like most of the zones have.

  20. #220
    Personally I love it, if you don't like it don't go there

    Why people care what other players do with their game time is beyond me.

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