I was usin your gems as an example, I know you only do LFR but you should still keep up with your class mechanics. You aren't giving 100% because its not heroic raiding. I'm ire you are a good player and can handle yourself otherwise, but there is still not a reason to, just because its LFR, not give 100%. Howeve there are those who do not have the skill of a heroic raider who do not learn their class and keep up with changes. The "it only LFR don't care" mentality is horrible, and a sign of lack of dedication or care for others who will need to work harder to make up the difference. I'm not a great healer, but when I heal Inmake sure the raid lead knows I'm not great and have a friend who is willing to make up the difference. I do this in flex, and when I do LFR I have a healer friend come to help me out. If you have a healer willing to group with you to make up the difference then great! But don't expect random grouped healer to work harder since you don check icyveins.
Don't really think we've seen a lot in this thread, if any, that actively afks and finds it unfair/elitist that people kicks them. Just players that don't like being flamed randomly by somebody that often is no better than themself.
Everyone has so much to say
They talk talk talk their lives away
Like I said earlier. These players REACT. Judge their reaction however you want, but don't ignore what they are reacting to.
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I could see this happening in some fashion in LFR, but not in organized raids.
What should happen is that LFR participants should not put up with asshattery, and, despite LFR's reputation, they often don't in my experience. People who queue for dungeons or raids don't want their time wasted any less than someone in an organized group or raid does.
The "your DPS is too low" types are typically overgeared for the LFR, Heroic raiders trying to get a transmog piece who cannot fathom that not everyone does 300k dps.
Noob is a derogatory comment not the worst but it is still one and thus can be classed as flaming. It is derived from newb/newbie or new player and is meant as an insult. Now don't get me wrong calling someone a noob is not world ending stuff and I would not lose sleep over it. But lets not move the goal posts on what is and isnt flaming. But I digress we can agree to disagree on this front.
As for my gems, I pretty much just eye balled them and ensured I met socket bonuses. Sure its a bit lazy but its more than good enough for LFR. The inner OCD child that lives in me screams at me to correct it so one day I might.
Last edited by khalltusk; 2013-12-06 at 02:58 PM.
No one rightly deserves tolerance for being a "low scorer" when the reason is mostly pure ignorance. Stepping into a random BG and seeing people in greens and blues without even reforging is complete ignorance. You're literally expecting 9-39 other players to carry you and have handicapped the entire instance from the start. If you're fucking terrible, and you're having fun - generally, everyone else isn't and chances are someone is going to get upset.
1) You pay for the priveledge of playing the game, not the right to play the game.
2) You being bad directly affects my ability to play, however breefly, and as such there is only so much I can do to make you perform better. Am I going to teach you how to play? Heck no, I didnt not sign up for that. But I am going to notify you of your failures, sometimes in a harsh manner, depending on the situation.
If you knew the problem you would say so, as in "<reason it's a noob>, fix it, noob". You could even put several swearwords in. It would have been somewhat constructive, but basically just the reasoning alone that works best.
Everyone has so much to say
They talk talk talk their lives away
FYI www.askmrrobot.com does this for you.
Last edited by Jyggalag; 2013-12-06 at 03:03 PM.
I rather play with elitists then with noobs. I can ignore an elitist...I can't ignore noobs because they suck and ruin the game.
So remove noobs.
I've always seen the anonymity in LFR and the rage that it brings out in people like drivers with road rage.
Normal people that you'd meet in any daily activity or workplace and they're fine, very nice, respectful, etc.. But when they're on the road, they feel entitled, and the thought that these other vehicles are "just cars with bad drivers" cause people to rage and do stupid shit they wouldn't normally do (ride your ass, honk the horn, flip you off, etc). Mainly because they fail to see other vehicles as actual people and also because they feel that there will be no repercussions. They'll never see that person again or talk to them on a daily basis.
I feel it's a lot of the same in LFR. Not everyone in LFR are total dicks. In their guild, on their server and probably in real life, they're most likely decent people. But put them in an anonymous environment where there are certain "expectations" and they do things they wouldn't normally.
Although, the difference is that I've stopped road ragers in the middle of the road on more than one occasion. They don't like having to explain why they just flipped you off or are riding your ass...
But getting up in arms in the middle of a run and going back and forth with some rager is like honking back at someone who honks at you... Seriously, it's not going to do anything, so just stop.
I'll never understand why people take LFR more seriously than any Heroic raid encounter.
These "bad attitudes" are in a majority if cases, reactionary. If the group doesn't have piss low dps, people won't mention low dps. If people are failing at mechanics, players won't mention sucking at mechanics.of course no raid goes flawlessly, but you should be able to take criticism, whether they sugar coat it or not.
What causes these issues are players who routinely make mistakes/don't improve or generally have a bad attitude (or both!) Hell some people just /follow I had that last week believe or not some guy had me on follow on trash raid kicked him as he was afk when it came to boss time. Funny thing I am actually looking at the DK theory crafting and already i've got the urge to fix my gems. Not for any other reason that it gets the most out of my character. As frankly I dont have _any_ issues tanking LFR currently. But hoping to get my friends to do flex soon so will be time to actually step it up and I will want to min max for that.
Where does it end?
Last edited by Jyggalag; 2013-12-06 at 03:10 PM.