Never claimed I was the reason they did it. I merely stated I asked for such things. Myself and multitudes of other casuals who pay to play and don't just burn through content in 3 days and bitch for 3 months. We enjoy the game for what it is and ask for new items to make it even more fun. Way to misinterpret a plain statement though
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Well, your opinion has been noted once again and I thank you for adding to the post count, and for helping keep it in the top 3 titles.
I'm merely saying that it's a possibility. And not even that unlikely if you have friends in the flex. He's dismissing LFR a stepping stone because a player wouldn't have to do anything, I'm pointing out that Flex can be the same way.
TI doesn't give you raid experience whatsoever. LFR, while easy, at least introduces you to the bosses. Yes, there are some people who don't do anything, but most people do. Just because 1-5 people afk, doesn't mean that the whole group is getting free gear. Those other 20 people are at least learning the fights, even if they are watered down.
The very simple way to prevent discussions about things like these and in fact to at least help stop the community from being so bad to each other, would be to gate any random group content behind the player first having to unlock proving grounds endless mode. Per character.
"Casuals" get everything they want, as only time can prevent someone from unlocking proving grounds endless mode.
"Elitists" can be much more sure that the people they play with (if elites actually do random content at all) are in some small way competent at their role.
"Bads" have less to do, never get thrown into a system forcing them to mix with people they never normally would mix with. Or, they learn to play and re-learn their manners.
It never did take hundreds of hours.I am very serious. It is a video game. I should not have to waste hundreds of hours to improve my gear. I play for fun. I also asked them for player housing, toy boxes, account wide mounts and rep, as well as barbershops and xmog. Sorry to tell you I am EXACTLY who Blizz caters to
So you play for fun? You have fun in LFR or anything else nowadays, which does not require any presence of mind or any serious time investment?? Mind boggling. It might be fun at first, but that fun is very transitory, it lasts about a week, or maybe a month. Then you get bored and unsub. And as long as this is the model blizzards intends to stick with, subs will continue to decline as will the game quality and when push comes to shove, you'll wipe that grin off your face.
Player housing is stupid and shouldn't take time from the development of useful stuff, like dungeons. Barbershops are just aesthetics and xmog was necessary because the design of gear is getting worse and worse.
OK. I just went back through your post history and I see you have given your opinion on the things I listed. I must have just missed them whilst at work, or asleep. Anyway, I apologise for assuming that was your only contribution.
We actually seem to agree on most things. Other than the whole being rude to address the rudeness of someone trying to address rudeness thing.
you shouldn't be even that low
The issue is that when you say "oh 69k is close enough" what's wrong with 68.5? Or 68? You have to draw a solid line. 70k is incredibly generous in the first place, moving the goal posts over and over is not an option.
-kick anybody under 70k:bob, falnica, deathprokilla and shamwow
-hey shamwow was 68k that's close enough
-fine. Kick the others.
-Falnica was only 3k behind Shamwow that isn't that much.
And so on. Where do you draw the line?
Interesting, because I just found at least a couple in this thread =/
You guys are probably right though, the side argument a few pages ago to show that you were doing the exact thing you're making threads against was the first time I stepped foot in this thread.
It is not about the destination, but the journey itself.
What makes you so special that you feel you ought not have to spend time improving your character like everyone else?
In fact, if you play for fun, then accept that your fun ought to be found without advances in your gear, there is plenty else besides for people without "time" to do things in WoW.
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And many people can tell stories of how people got worse or stayed at the same dps due to the elitists.
If you dont have something constructive to say, stfu.
If you give them advice on how to improve the chance that they will actually improve is higher than if you tell them that they are shit.
The stat squish will fix this.And so on. Where do you draw the line?
Just showing that people are thin skinned wastes of space. I was in a flex the other day on Thok and a bunch of people died due to being under his feet. After we wiped the RL was a bit abusive and basically said if you can't keep out from underneath him then just leave cuz ill kick you if you die to that again. A bunch of people were like, "Omg what an asshole, boo fucking who, im a giant baby" and left. We picked up people to replace them and killed the boss.
What does being a sensitive pansy ass get you? Nothing, so just toughen up and get some shit done.
I'm not in a random group to be a teacher. I'm doing my job and preforming my role right. You are not preparing your role right. If a player whispered me asking how I do such great damage I would tell them. However if somebody isn't trying to do wellin the first place, like not reading the dungeon journal or actually having full participation, then they can screw off. If uou walk in ungemmed, unenchanter (or doing so wrong because you can't bother to learn your class) and expect somebody to teach you then you are being a leecher and an ass
I'm not a fan of hypocrisy. If OP is going to suggest others do something, he should do it himself (and not simply by some half cracked made up definition of his own).
I don't yell at people in LFR, because I know what to expect when I get there. I rarely ever initiate a kick, and unless there is a damn good reason, I don't blindly vote yes for kicks. Punishment in a video game is not going to improve performance. These people aren't pack mules. And when you beat them senseless with your bad attitude and words (regardless of how much OP thinks HIS version of rudeness is acceptable) then even those who desire to improve are just gonna say "fuck it."
Fact is: If you're going into LFR, you're going to experience bad and/or inexperienced players. No question about it. If you get upset once you get in there because that's the case, when you KNEW beforehand that it was going to be the case, then you need to question your own sensibility. LFR is what it is. Accept it or don't go.
And as far as the recent side argument, I made my point and the OP supported my point perfectly in his own back tracking way. He made an entire thread to complain about rude people, and in the same thread was rude to half the posters that took the time to post on his thread. That, my friend, is not okay.
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Not the same thing, they left due to the fact that they were going to get kicked if they died or (presumably) if they started to talk back. Thats not the case with LFR. There is no leader so fights are way more likely to happen. The only thing that would make your run worse is when the other people are just looking for ways to spite you.
What does being a sensitive pansy ass get you? Nothing, so just toughen up and get some shit done.
What does being an asshole in LFR get you? Nothing, so just chill out and get some shit done.