Do you think Stance of the Gladiator will successfully allow prot to be viable dps?

[Gliff]

I would be willing to bet they dont end up keeping that plan.

[Krazzorx]

How would they make it work without set bonuses?

[Yelmurc]

I hope so, a shield wearing DPS spec is something I've always wanted as a warrior.

[High Marshal Sigismund]

Would absolutely love a shield class that is a damage dealer. A unique concept that I hope works.

[Bookofblade]

How would they make it work without set bonuses?

well sense all set bonuses adjust for your current spec they could easily have them adjust if you were in glad stance if they needed too, or just make bonuses for prot that also benefit glad

[Deleted]

No, but it will break PvP. -30% dmg and solid dps (less than arms/furby but still more than naked) and more CC in form of knockback.

I think 1 patch it will be removed, nerfed to the ground.

[Roshar]

No, but it will break PvP. -30% dmg and solid dps (less than arms/furby but still more than naked) and more CC in form of knockback.

I think 1 patch it will be removed, nerfed to the ground.

Except you didn't read the tooltip. Read it next time.

[Sal the Shieldhog]

No, but it will break PvP. -30% dmg and solid dps (less than arms/furby but still more than naked) and more CC in form of knockback.

I think 1 patch it will be removed, nerfed to the ground.

Might need to read that better. Can't switch stances in battle - which means they'll need to choose between -30% damage OR the DPS.

Although, it's worthy to note that as of now, Celestalon said they plan on balancing it to be on par with Arms and Fury. It won't break PvP though.

[Requiel]

Might need to read that better. Can't switch stances in battle - which means they'll need to choose between -30% damage OR the DPS.

Although, it's worthy to note that as of now, Celestalon said they plan on balancing it to be on par with Arms and Fury. It won't break PvP though.

Also note that it loses Unwavering Sentinel

[Volitar]

I'm going to make it my Warriors mainspec so I hope it stays :P. I don't really do more than farm Shadowmournes/Invincables or farm Glaives with the Warriors tho.

[Sal the Shieldhog]

Also note that it loses Unwavering Sentinel

For all intents and purposes, it's another spec in the same tree as Protection - they've managed to put it so that we don't get the Feral Druid pre-MoP situation again though.

[Gliff]

For all intents and purposes, it's another spec in the same tree as Protection - they've managed to put it so that we don't get the Feral Druid pre-MoP situation again though.

Correct.
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[Traveler Voltin]

i think i need to reread patch notes or something. i have no idea whats going on.

[Sal the Shieldhog]

i think i need to reread patch notes or something. i have no idea whats going on.

Imagine pre-MoP Feral Druids who can't change between cat and bear forms in combat. There, you have Gladiator Warriors.

[Cyclonus-WOW]

Well, i started a blog about it.. because this should be amazing.

We basically have a talent that lets us forgo battle stance, in place we get Gladiator Stance.
We're still prot, but we'll be a dps class. We can't stancedance in combat, so its all-in.
This is by far the most exciting note of all the patches imo. Playing prot this xpac was like a dps class then got REALLY good .

[-Havok-]

This is really exciting. Hoping it makes it into the game. It sounds great!

[Deleted]

Call me old-school but I still feel Survivability/Threat generation shouldn't also be /DPS

[Serzha]

Call me old-school but I still feel Survivability/Threat generation shouldn't also be /DPS

Which is why they're nerfing tank damage (removing Vengeance and making it a flat 50-70% of DPS' output), as well as making you unable to tank or be extremely beefy in Gladiator Stance (Which cannot be changed in combat, and replaces Battle Stance.)

In other words:
If you enter combat in Defensive Stance, you are a tank, you cannot change to Gladiator Stance.
If you enter combat in Gladiator Stance, you are a DPS, and you cannot change to Defensive Stance to begin tanking.

[Bryntrollian]

Glad stance will be a candidate for top dps.
I've always wanted to be a sword and board dps!

[Flalia4]

Hey I'ma piggyback on this thread instead of making a whole new one since this ones all about dat gladiator stance. Does anybody know if there will be shields that have dps bonus stats. Like how peices could have bonus armor and such?