1. #2641
    Shoc will you be making more sub race photos of the male draenei now that the artcraft has been released?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixietinker View Post
    Shoc will you be making more sub race photos of the male draenei now that the artcraft has been released?
    he said he would a little while back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Fel taint is supposed to last for long time, even after the source has been removed.
    Orcs are still green. Hell, the taint is so pervasive thta even Thrall's kid is green, even when his wife is brown and Thrall himself couldn't be further away from Fel energies.
    but the elves absorb sacred energy from the Sunwell steadily

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    Quote Originally Posted by Immitis View Post
    yeah current lore states that fel taint has a very long half life of several generations.

    considering warcraft as a whole from warcraft 1 to warlords of draenor is only around 30 years and the blood elves have only just now stopped using fel like 3 years ago in the timeline theres no possible way that they are getting blue eyes back.

    and NO ONE wants high elves on the horde. blizzard certainly would never do that because the outrage would be insane. high elves despite looking almost exactly like blood elves still manage to be one of the top requested alliance races.

    if they arent going to give high elves to the alliance they arent going to give high elves to anyone.
    I want blood elf with blue eyes and many players also want blood elf blue eyes, we are the second most played race!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    but the elves absorb sacred energy from the Sunwell steadily

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    I want blood elf with blue eyes and many players also want blood elf blue eyes, we are the second most played race!
    A blood elf with blue eyes is not a blood elf. That is a High Elf.

    The Sunwell is now holy energies, whereas in the past it was Arcane (hence the Blue eyes). If anything, over time the Blood Elves eyes will turn Golden.
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    A lot of you are mistaking Blood Elves and High Elves to be different races. They are not. Blood and High elves are a political ideology that cast them away from the Alliance and into the Horde following the destruction of 95% of their population by the Scourge, the destruction of the Sunwell, and the fact that they had to consume fel energy in order to satisfy their magical addiction.

    With the Sunwell restored, they will eventually return to having Blue eyes and even normal non-glowing eyes, that doesn't mean they are High Elves, still Blood Elves that are just cleansed of the Fel corruption.

    Having Blue eyes isn't going to change the fact that the Alliance have been kicking the shit out of them for the last 4 expansions.

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    @shoc

    If there's no difference between High and Blood Elves, then the same may be applied to Mag'har vs Green Orcs, Eredar vs Draenei, and so on. Blood Elves are Fel Corrupted, there is a difference.

    I also think that people are vastly underestimating the longevity of the green eyes. Look at the orcs. It's been two or three generations since Mannoroth, and something around 12 years since the Third War. Yet, every single green Orc lineage remains green. Even someone like Thrall, who is a master of arguably a near exact opposite of Fel magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larynx View Post
    @shoc

    If there's no difference between High and Blood Elves, then the same may be applied to Mag'har vs Green Orcs, Eredar vs Draenei, and so on. Blood Elves are Fel Corrupted, there is a difference.

    I also think that people are vastly underestimating the longevity of the green eyes. Look at the orcs. It's been two or three generations since Mannoroth, and something around 12 years since the Third War. Yet, every single green Orc lineage remains green. Even someone like Thrall, who is a master of arguably a near exact opposite of Fel magic.
    the elves absorb holy energy from the Sunwell steadily!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post
    A lot of you are mistaking Blood Elves and High Elves to be different races. They are not. Blood and High elves are a political ideology that cast them away from the Alliance and into the Horde following the destruction of 95% of their population by the Scourge, the destruction of the Sunwell, and the fact that they had to consume fel energy in order to satisfy their magical addiction.

    With the Sunwell restored, they will eventually return to having Blue eyes and even normal non-glowing eyes, that doesn't mean they are High Elves, still Blood Elves that are just cleansed of the Fel corruption.

    Having Blue eyes isn't going to change the fact that the Alliance have been kicking the shit out of them for the last 4 expansions.

    #highelvesforthehorde2014

    Also Eredar and Broken coming.
    They are the same race, however over time they will eventually change into a completely difference race. This was evident by how Trolls became Night Elves (Well of Eternity Influence) who then became High Elves (ARCANE Sunwell Influence). Eventually this new Sunwell (which is fueled by Holy energies now) will cause the Blood Elves to become something...new.

    The Blue eyes came from the arcane influence of the original Sunwell. They were addicted to the stuff, which is why they turned to Fel magics after it was destroyed. They needed the magic and Fel magic is plentiful (though it's generally not a good idea to use the stuff...). After Mu'ru's remains (and the girl who was the living embodiment of the sunwell itself) were used to reignite the Sunwell after Kil'Jeadens defeat it became a source of Holy energy.

    This means they will not have blue eyes in the end. They will likely end up with Golden Eyes.
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    That Broken draenei is amazing How did you do that?

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    If blizzard is smart this guy has a new job and some work to do. I really hope these make it in game one day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhlor View Post
    the elves absorb holy energy from the Sunwell steadily!!!!
    that doesnt matter.

    fel taint has a very long half life. if it could just be wished away with light magic dont you think the blood knights wouldve never gotten green eyes in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keile View Post
    They are the same race, however over time they will eventually change into a completely difference race. This was evident by how Trolls became Night Elves (Well of Eternity Influence) who then became High Elves (ARCANE Sunwell Influence). Eventually this new Sunwell (which is fueled by Holy energies now) will cause the Blood Elves to become something...new.

    The Blue eyes came from the arcane influence of the original Sunwell. They were addicted to the stuff, which is why they turned to Fel magics after it was destroyed. They needed the magic and Fel magic is plentiful (though it's generally not a good idea to use the stuff...). After Mu'ru's remains (and the girl who was the living embodiment of the sunwell itself) were used to reignite the Sunwell after Kil'Jeadens defeat it became a source of Holy energy.

    This means they will not have blue eyes in the end. They will likely end up with Golden Eyes.
    high elves also have access to the sunwell from everywhere.

    all high elves and blood elves are connected to the sunwell from bloodline regardless of where they are

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    also lore wise high elves DO NOT all have blue eyes.

    thats game mechanics. lore wise high elves can have blue eyes, green eyes, gold eyes, white eyes, silver eyes, ect ect.

    alleria windrunner for example had glowing green eyes and was a high elf
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post

    Broken draenei looks great. But I think that Eredar needs to looks more demonic and vile, because already your one looks just like red draenei. His face is too calm, I think he should look better with contemptuous grimace and some sharp teeth bared from mouth. Something looking that way:



    Anyway, good job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shoc View Post
    A lot of you are mistaking Blood Elves and High Elves to be different races. They are not. Blood and High elves are a political ideology that cast them away from the Alliance and into the Horde following the destruction of 95% of their population by the Scourge, the destruction of the Sunwell, and the fact that they had to consume fel energy in order to satisfy their magical addiction.

    With the Sunwell restored, they will eventually return to having Blue eyes and even normal non-glowing eyes, that doesn't mean they are High Elves, still Blood Elves that are just cleansed of the Fel corruption.

    Having Blue eyes isn't going to change the fact that the Alliance have been kicking the shit out of them for the last 4 expansions.

    #highelvesforthehorde2014

    Also Eredar and Broken coming.

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    It looks awesome!

    Also, Sin'dorei, in-lore, never had non-glowing eyes.

    All Elves have glowy eyes like the Elves ingame have!

    Also, all those new models and skins wants me to make characters for every race in the Alliance :-/

  14. #2654
    Quote Originally Posted by Keile View Post
    They are the same race, however over time they will eventually change into a completely difference race. This was evident by how Trolls became Night Elves (Well of Eternity Influence) who then became High Elves (ARCANE Sunwell Influence). Eventually this new Sunwell (which is fueled by Holy energies now) will cause the Blood Elves to become something...new.

    The Blue eyes came from the arcane influence of the original Sunwell. They were addicted to the stuff, which is why they turned to Fel magics after it was destroyed. They needed the magic and Fel magic is plentiful (though it's generally not a good idea to use the stuff...). After Mu'ru's remains (and the girl who was the living embodiment of the sunwell itself) were used to reignite the Sunwell after Kil'Jeadens defeat it became a source of Holy energy.

    This means they will not have blue eyes in the end. They will likely end up with Golden Eyes.
    I see this all the time and I wonder where people got this from because it is state in in-game book that they turned into high elf because they were cut off from life-giving energy of WoE. They grew weaker and paler. They are like weaker version of Night Elf. Am I missing something?

  15. #2655
    the physical changes from night elf to high elf were caused from a combination of things.

    being cut off from the world tree and its magic, whatever was under tirisfal affecting them, a switch to diurnal lifestyles, the sunwell.

    troll aggression started immediately without provocation and lasted until 4000 years before erupting into the troll wars fully.

    its possible what the trolls were doing to the elves played a part of it as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gorthezar View Post
    If blizzard is smart this guy has a new job and some work to do. I really hope these make it in game one day.
    His work is awesome and all but all he's doing is photoshopping images in static angles, and these are all common sense ideas any lore fan is familiar with. What exactly do you think his position should be at Blizzard? I love his work, but the way people make this remark just because they like something really seems to ignore a bucket of context. I could maybe see him doing images for in game short story illustrations or website design. I can assure you these ideas we talk about are all known about at Blizzard and desired by many developers, it takes more than this unfortunately for something to manifest in the game.

    I only say this because it's not really fair to Blizzard to act like this is an oversight on their part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yig View Post
    His work is awesome and all but all he's doing is photoshopping images in static angles, and these are all common sense ideas any lore fan is familiar with. What exactly do you think his position should be at Blizzard? I love his work, but the way people make this remark just because they like something really seems to ignore a bucket of context. I could maybe see him doing images for in game short story illustrations or website design. I can assure you these ideas we talk about are all known about at Blizzard and desired by many developers, it takes more than this unfortunately for something to manifest in the game.

    I only say this because it's not really fair to Blizzard to act like this is an oversight on their part.
    Yup, Blizzard has stated a good number of times that sub races and additional customization options have been on their list for a long time now, and we can expect something fun once the model update is complete.

    What I'm doing in this thread isn't very hard to be honest, I'm just cutting out the artcraft models, messing with adjustment sliders, filters, brightness and contrast, cutting minor details out of the model viewer and into photoshop, all in all it isn't a lot of work. Though I'm pursuing a career in graphic design so this acts as a nice exercise in photoshop between work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcane-Villain View Post
    Broken draenei looks great. But I think that Eredar needs to looks more demonic and vile, because already your one looks just like red draenei. His face is too calm, I think he should look better with contemptuous grimace and some sharp teeth bared from mouth. Something looking that way:



    Anyway, good job.
    How's this for demonic and vile?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Larynx View Post
    @shoc

    If there's no difference between High and Blood Elves, then the same may be applied to Mag'har vs Green Orcs, Eredar vs Draenei, and so on. Blood Elves are Fel Corrupted, there is a difference.

    I also think that people are vastly underestimating the longevity of the green eyes. Look at the orcs. It's been two or three generations since Mannoroth, and something around 12 years since the Third War. Yet, every single green Orc lineage remains green. Even someone like Thrall, who is a master of arguably a near exact opposite of Fel magic.
    My theory: The minor corruption on orcs (green skin) is permanent, major corruption can be cured (red skin) as shown with Grom Hellscream. The thing about Blood/High Elves is that they need a constant supply of energy to keep their magic powers or w/e we call it. If they stop take power from fel energy (blood elf) or the sunwell (high elf) they won't have any eye glow at all.
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    may i suggest you check out wowwiki or any similar site, it's Grom that orders the murder of Cairne

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    Damn, the Azotha looks awesome! Wish they were in the game!

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    Sorry for the wait guys, real life got in the way of things. Anyways, here is a concept for the Azotha and Half-Elf sub race for Humans.


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