Sub or Combat :P
Sub or Combat :P
Though I do agree sub is a stupid choice. At least there is an argument for assassination thats reasonable, but there is absolutely no reason to pick sub over combat unless maybe your best 2.6 is massively inferior to your dagger. While you could argue the cleave fluff isn't a big deal, it is still undeniably something which is better than the nothing sub has over combat for shamans.
Last edited by Sesshou; 2013-12-11 at 08:27 AM.
oh btw we are doing the 3 tank strat......
Combat is double 574 weapons,
Sub is heroic Norushen Dags.
Also I can play sub to its maximum, just thinking since we are splitting adds with the 3 tank strat its now a single target fight..... Sub sims higher than Assass....
Last edited by kilj; 2013-12-11 at 08:53 AM.
Assassination if you want to respec and your sub-35% phase is ahead of your combat play, combat otherwise. Your group's difficulty may be different from others' (on 25H, we've had near-0 tank deaths but we lost a lot of the stream/elemental/tomb team consistently... and sadly, still do... but deaths against the tornadoes and such only really happen post-25%. Honestly we shouldn't be having any trouble at this point in time regardless, but so it goes).
Sessh's analysis of Sub v. Combat above is rather complete.
Play whatever spec you do the most damage with.
The execute isn't that big of a deal, and Assassination's execute phase is only a ~15% dps increase over the normal phase anyway. I'd say that making the fight quicker, giving your raid less time to screw up, is more important than the execute.
Combat all the way. The only time I'd suggest assassination over combat is if your raid's dps is lacking. Combat cleave can push the first part before you split them to be faster, and your pre 35% damage is going to be higher since you probably since you were asking about sub too. Subtlety just isn't as good for progress as combat or sin.
Was looking over logs, combat only beats out the other 2 because of the cleave... Yet since we are doing split strat I'd bet its around the same with the other 2.
Tho looking at shadowcraft its only a 20k dps increase between sub and combat
I mean, if your mind is made up and you're not going to get booted, play whatever you like. The only offset is the question of whether or not your group struggles sub-25%, but that also has nothing, at all, to do with sub (hint: assassination is the only execute spec).
I'm also not seeing a 20k DPS difference in top logs. It looks more like 80k, of which flurry, for at least one log I opened that didn't look like it was in Russian, is less than 80k (Nokkius).
Last edited by Kael; 2013-12-11 at 08:42 PM.
And actually, I'm pretty sure you are guaranteed at least 4-5 seconds between ash and prisons expiring. Some one feel free to correct me, but that gives healers plenty of time to top back up whoever has the prisons.
Last edited by Sesshou; 2013-12-12 at 12:09 AM.
I did end up with combat only because I didn't want to have to regem for one fight.