Air strike kills 15 civilians in Yemen by mistake:.

[Deleted]

Actually, you can.

First, you "thin the herd". Bush did this after invading Iraq. Yes, I know the official story was WMD, but that was never why we went into Iraq. That was an excuse to justify going in. The real reason we invaded Iraq was to change the battlefield. On September 11th, 2001 the battlefield for this war became any US city against any US civilian. The only deciding factor on when the next attack would happen was how hard it would be to get more terrorists in place in the US and equipped. But we moved the battlefield and the target by invading Iraq. Now, instead of unarmed civilians in US cities being the target, it was well trained heavily armed US soldiers in Iraq, and instead of needing lots of logistics and planning to attack civilians in the US, a bunch of dudes could hop in an old truck anywhere in the Middle East and drive to Iraq to try their hands at killing Americans. It is estimated (I don't have a link) that 750,000 young muslim men grabbed their guns, headed to Iraq to kill Americans, and died trying. I believe Dick Cheney referred to this as "draining the swamp" - AKA drastically reducing the recruiting pool of potential terrorists.

Second, you change the culture from which potential terrorists are recruited. Where do they come from? Almost exclusively from the multitude of dictatorships in the Middle East and North Africa. And what have we seen happen in the 12 years since? Muslim nation after muslim nation either peacefully or through revolution seek to overthrow their leaders-for-life and install new, elected governments. And what is the other result from this? They're usually now too busy fighting each other to worry about America.

Oh god...
You mean Iraq, Libya and Syria. Yes you're right. Focus recruiting areas of international terrorism. *facepalm*

You fight terrorism by not allowing ignorance, poverty and hopelessness to spread. Bombing someone back to the middle age would only prove he is right in wanting your kids to die.

Faith in humanity -10k
This thread is toxic.

[Cyberowl]

The crippled logic of people defending this actions is simply mind-blowing.

The western world took a wrong turn on 9/11; the US shouldn't forget it, but the war on terrorists is uncomparable worse.

[ringpriest]

Oh god...
You mean Iraq, Libya and Syria. Yes you're right. Focus recruiting areas of international terrorism. *facepalm*

You fight terrorism by not allowing ignorance, poverty and hopelessness to spread. Bombing someone back to the middle age would only prove he is right in wanting your kids to die.

Faith in humanity -10k
This thread is toxic.

I'm finding most discussions of the War on Terra, spying, and civil rights in the America go toxic lately. I can't tell if it's because of government sock-puppets or general apathy from the U.S. turning in to an inverted totalitarian state. Could be both at once, I suppose.

[Daerio]

I'm finding most discussions of the War on Terra, spying, and civil rights in the America go toxic lately. I can't tell if it's because of government sock-puppets or general apathy from the U.S. turning in to an inverted totalitarian state. Could be both at once, I suppose.

I thought it couldn't happen any more, but I'm actually baffled at the "sock puppet" program.

Centcom said it was not targeting any US-based web sites, in English or any other language, and specifically said it was not targeting Facebook or Twitter.

Why do I doubt that's true?

[Deleted]

Disgusting, sort your fucking government out.

Yeh it's not going to be that easy I'm afraid.
Rampant corporativism.

[jasdasm]

By that logic you should be bombing Saudi Arabia, not Yemen.

Fact 15 of the 19 Hijackers of the 9/11 attacks were Saudis. Osama bin Laden was Saudi. The entire operation was financed by Saudis. Al Qaeda has its ideological and financial base in Saudi Arabia. Sunnis who make up the majority of fundamental Islamic terrorists are based in Saudi Arabia. Most of Al Qaeda's donations come from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

But we are occupying Afghanistan, invaded Iraq, bombing Pakistan and Yemen.

Yes... can't you smell the bullshit too?

Please dont forget the most Important thing in this "War against Terror" .. its a self-made War

[Saichotick]

By that logic you should be bombing Saudi Arabia, not Yemen.

Fact 15 of the 19 Hijackers of the 9/11 attacks were Saudis. Osama bin Laden was Saudi. The entire operation was financed by Saudis. Al Qaeda has its ideological and financial base in Saudi Arabia. Sunnis who make up the majority of fundamental Islamic terrorists are based in Saudi Arabia. Most of Al Qaeda's donations come from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

But we are occupying Afghanistan, invaded Iraq, bombing Pakistan and Yemen.

Yes... can't you smell the bullshit too?

Where someone comes from, and where they currently reside or two totally different things. Let's say I was born in Nevada, and I'm a terrorist, but I live in New York, should my enemies bomb the fuck out of Nevada?

[Deleted]

If your country harbors terrorists then there may unfortunately be some unintended consequences

The local population should man up and out suspicious activity so the terrorists can be identified and targeted easier.

[Bakis]

If your country harbors terrorists then there may unfortunately be some unintended consequences.

A dirt poor unstable country is the to blame?
US foreign policies making a sequal to the Wedding Singer, Wedding Striker - soundtrack Spears Ops I did it again.

[satimy]

If we lose all of our constitutional rights fighting the war on terror, isnt terrorism winning?

[Xanjori]

The local population should man up and out suspicious activity so the terrorists can be identified and targeted easier.

Yeah, lets just out them terrorists that probably control local authorities and will murder my entire family.

No wait, you want to fight terrorists YOU take the responsibility.

[Bakis]

The local population should man up and out suspicious activity so the terrorists can be identified and targeted easier.

The irony of saying man up when the US armed forces/CIA doesnt man up to fight with anything but a joystick half across the earth

[Deleted]

Look at the Middle east now and when it was part of the ottoman empire there was peace there after the fall of the empire it was in a constant state of destruction/psychos and other shit so they kind of deserved it because they betrayed the ottoman empire.

[Callous1970]

A dirt poor unstable country is the to blame?
US foreign policies making a sequal to the Wedding Singer, Wedding Striker - soundtrack Spears Ops I did it again.

If their dictators had spent the last 50 years investing in infrastructure and public education, and allowed free enterprise, instead of spending their nation's wealth on personal palaces and their own comfort, none of these countries would be "dirt poor." Even Afghanistan could be a relatively wealthy nation with its vast natural resources.

[helmaroc]

So ho long do you guys think the War on Terror is going to last? I think for a long while now because it doesn't seem like any ground is being made in this campaign. We look like devils in the face of anyone that doesn't know the situation so of course people are going to be upset and want to take up arms, I mean that's just human emotion. Of course the government can't handle it themselves over there, they seem to not have the resources capable or maybe they just rely on the technological superpower to do their dirty work for them resulting in human error.

[Callous1970]

Look at the Middle east now and when it was part of the ottoman empire there was peace there after the fall of the empire it was in a constant state of destruction/psychos and other shit so they kind of deserved it because they betrayed the ottoman empire.

This is England's fault. They intentionally split the Ottoman empire up in ways that would ensure long term disputes and turmoil. Like splitting up the Kurds among three different countries (Iran, Iraq, and Turkey). They did this all across the old Ottoman empire on purpose.

[Deleted]

This is England's fault. They intentionally split the Ottoman empire up in ways that would ensure long term disputes and turmoil. Like splitting up the Kurds among three different countries (Iran, Iraq, and Turkey). They did this all across the old Ottoman empire on purpose.

The only split point of the kurds is Iraq and Syria the turkish Army defended the south-eastern parts.
Also it isnt only the fault of england they were just the ones asking but the Arabs lways wanted that because they disliked the ottomans so its primarly their fault.