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    FBI creates (and then 'stops') yet another 'terrorist' plot

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...,2620295.story

    Loewen had been under investigation for about six months after he made statements about wanting to commit “violent jihad” against the United States. Some of those statements were in the form of emails exchanged with a person who turned out to be an undercover FBI operative.

    In their exchange, Loewen appears to become more disillusioned, writing at one point: “I believe the Muslim who is labeled ‘a radical fundamentalist’ is closer to Allah than the ones labeled 'moderates.'"

    The FBI operative offers to introduce Loewen to “someone who could help him engage in violent jihad.”

    During their exchange, Loewen speaks highly of Osama bin Laden and of Anwar Awlaki, one of the leaders of the Al Qaeda group on the Arabian Peninsula.
    Eventually Loewen was put in contact with another FBI employee who helped him put together what he thought was a car bomb.
    How long before one of these "terror plots" ginned-up to make the FBI look good, ends up going the same direction the Gunwalker "plan", and ends in killing people? (And that's without getting into the fact that creating fake plots to justify increased security is pretty much terrorism all on its own.)
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
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    How long before one of these "terror plots" ginned-up to make the FBI look good, ends up going the same direction the Gunwalker "plan", and ends in killing people? (And that's without getting into the fact that creating fake plots to justify increased security is pretty much terrorism all on its own.)
    The first world trade center bombing was done by the FBI and they also insisted on using REAL explosives, they were supposed to arrest the people when they tried to use the fake bomb that was actually real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nation...,2620295.story



    How long before one of these "terror plots" ginned-up to make the FBI look good, ends up going the same direction the Gunwalker "plan", and ends in killing people? (And that's without getting into the fact that creating fake plots to justify increased security is pretty much terrorism all on its own.)
    If that happens, I will be the "ha ha!" guy from the simpsons.

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    I trust you know what a sting operation is. If so, what are you getting at?

    I don't think the purpose of a sting operation is to gin up fear and get increased funding. It happens on a local, state, and federal level every day and is very effective at curbing crime and terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Payday View Post
    I trust you know what a sting operation is. If so, what are you getting at?

    I don't think the purpose of a sting operation is to gin up fear and get increased funding. It happens on a local, state, and federal level every day and is very effective at curbing crime and terrorism.
    Well what happens when they turn a sting operation into an orchestrated terror event instead of making the arrest like when the first world trade center bombing happened.

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