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    Armory Stats - Proving Grounds, Parental Control Changes, Blue Tweets, Fan Art

    Battle.net Parental Control Changes, Feedback on Density is Needed, MannerCookie's Torment 6 Freeze Barb

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    Armory Stats - Proving Grounds
    Today we are looking at data from proving grounds achievements, with a sample of 6.3 million characters and 2.3 million players that were active after November 19th. The sample is slightly biased, as players who are not in a guild are much less likely to appear in our sample. You can leave suggestions for future stat posts in the comments!

    Our first chart shows the percentage of players that earned proving grounds achievements, for at least one role, at least two roles, or at least three roles. The second chart shows the same data, but scales the percentages so that they consider only the participating players. A participating player is a player that earned at least Bronze in one role.

    Unfortunately we are unable to look at achievements by class, as achievements are earned account wide, and there is no way to know which character they were earned on.

    There are three data points for every difficulty level, but you may need to click the names in the legend to hide taller bars and mouse over close to the X axis in order to see them.

    A total of ~20,000 players have completed the You're Doing it Wrong, or ~3% of the players that earned at least one Silver role achievement.

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    Upcoming Battle.net Parental Control Changes
    Originally Posted by Blizzard (Blue Tracker)
    On January 7, 2014 or shortly afterwards, we’re making a change to Battle.net® Parental Controls: a new default setting will prevent in-game purchases for accounts that have Parental Controls turned on. The account will not be able to:

    • Make purchases in the World of Warcraft® in-game Shop
    • Make real-money purchases in Hearthstone™: Heroes of Warcraft™
    • Make purchases in the Diablo® III real-money auction house (note: the auction house will be permanently closed on March 18, 2014)

    We’re making this change to ensure that Parental Controls users will have more control over real-money purchases in Blizzard games. No action is needed to keep this default setting and prevent in-game purchases.
    To enable in-game purchases for this account:
    1. Log in to Battle.net and visit the Retrieve Parental Controls page.
    2. Enter your Parental Controls email address.
    3. Click the Send Parental Controls Email button.
    4. Check your Parental Controls email for a message from Blizzard Entertainment.
    5. Click the link under the account user’s name. This will take you to the Parental Controls setup page.
    6. Under the Purchase Settings section, check Allow in-game purchases, and click the Save Settings button.

    If you’d like to remove Parental Controls from this Battle.net account, visit our Adding and Removing Battle.net Parental Controls support article for detailed instructions.

    Blue Tweets
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    What overall feel are you guys going for for armor in WoD? Something light/nomadic/less bulky?
    overall theme is primal/barbarian . We're also tapping into iron horde theme strategically. (Source)

    Any chance of allowing white/statless items as transmog models? Some very nice models among those going to waste!
    Doubtful as it's currently the #1 lock-out mechanism. More likely that we'll try to (re)include such assets as future rewards! (Source)
    Consider their models for re-inclusion I mean!
    Oh yes, that's what I meant! Just a matter of the item/reward peeps finding the right time & place for all that stuff. (Source)

    I mean, they don't start holding the bow like a gun suddenly. I just wonder why it's such a problem with fist/1Hand weapons.
    Bow/gun was hard-coded in from the very beginning, built into the system. And again, for *both* philosophical & technical reasons. (Source)

    Character / Items
    Probably too much for twitter, but what plans for trinkets in WoD? RPPM/ICD/On-use/
    Variety. All of the above, along with some more ideas. (Source)

    Just FYI, Tauren could need an offensive racial (wow that sounds weird) So many of my druid pal racechanged to Troll...
    Yes, adding a throughput benefit to races that had don't have one currently is part of balancing the racials. (Source)

    Warlords of Draenor Stats
    Will low level gear only have haste and crit or will amplify, readiness and multi-strike(lol) be low level too?
    Unsure. Since most low level gear only has 1 secondary stat on it, it could be OK. Still deciding. (Source)

    Will Multistrike interact with some class mechanics like, say, crit for fire mages & how is it meaningfully different from crit?
    Just there are some class abilities that trigger from crits, there may be some that trigger from Multistrikes. (Source)
    "Just as there are...", rather. Yes, Flameglow would work better against Multistrikes (and still worse against crits). (Source)

    Isnt multistrike just crit with the chance of hitting somthing you dont want to plus only 1/3 the power? (I am guessing: No )
    No... Multistrike doesn't hit a different target. Can trigger 1 or 2 times per attack. (Source)
    Which means if it strikes twice and both crits it's +120% otherwise it's +90% or less. How will this ever be better than crit?
    It has an appropriate coefficient so that it's competitive. Is that what you mean? (Source)
    Does that mean Multistrike is affected by our Crit rating?
    No... Multistrike and Crit are separate mechanics. (Source)

    Double multistrike, all three hits crit! <- This is the only thing will hear about in WoD PvP.
    We recognize that problem and are preemptively working on potential solutions. (Source)

    Right, what's wrong with that? Also I imagine some specs getting procs off multistrike hits
    Yeah, 1% Multistrike will be way cheaper than 1% crit. That's fine, happens all the time. (Source)
    critrat is near 100% right now. Multistrike capped around 6.1 then? Or lower critchances in general?
    And half that crit is from Agi, not crit rating. (Source)
    wait, I missed something... no more agi->crit? Same for int-crit? Agi-dodge and str-parry?
    I'm saying that you can't say that "I capped crit in X tiers, so I'll cap multistrike in X/2 tiers". Crit came from Agi too. (Source)

    is the only way to get multi strike through gear? Toons have base mastery and crit...
    We may have the occasional buff, or class ability, or consumable. Characters don't have base haste, yet you get it from all over. (Source)

    Lot of tick mechanics were changed to less frequent but more powerful to decrease server load. Any worry for multistrike?
    We learned a lot from those changes. We're designing Multistrike and handling some similar challenges with that in mind. So, I see where the concern is coming from and we're making sure that it won't cause problems like that again. (Source)

    PvE
    Keep that crap out of my visual clusterfuck melee pile.
    We 110% recognize the problem that is visual clutter, especially in raids, and want to make it better, not worse. (Source)
    We've started toning up your own visuals, and toning down others' visuals. Much more of that to come in WoD. (Source)

    I want to always have something to work for (in WoD gear), but I don't want to rely on it for damage + competitive raid spot.
    Those desires are competing with each other though, you see? (Source)

    PvP
    Is ONE DR (or something like it) a system you'd consider for WoW PvP? It would dramatically cut down on CC and make it strategic
    Prefer to reduce the number of CC spells. Players seeing "Immune" more isn't going to be fun. (Source)
    Is that actually going to happen though? You guys say that an awful lot yet Hunters have been the only ones to lose any.
    It's the plan for WoD. (Source)
    Simpler solution is removing so much CC that DR isn't needed to such a large extent anyway.
    DR categories help prevent class stacking, which is good, but the number of categories has grown too high. (Source)

    Since 72% resil makes healing very efficent atm im interested to see how healers will will be adjusted for low resil PVP.
    We're exploring 150% crits for PvP damage/healing which makes a big difference for both base resil and battle fatigue. (Source)
    Bringing back resi providing crit % reduction is something people (I) have been suggesting for over a year...
    Sure but that's not what we're talking about here (Source)

    I hope it can be reduced, and I would love to see it removed as a stat and just be a background effect like battle fatigue.
    Base resil will be reduced as low as possible. Like PvP dmg reduction as set bonus (trinkets). Don't like resil gems. (Source)

    What about making base resilience only active in instanced pvp? Pve players still stand a chance but pvp gear good in world pvp.
    This would just mean the game is way more bursty out in the world. Not something we want. (Source)
    I didn't think of that. I just hope you guys find a way to make world pvp work. I'm stoked about Ashran #WoD
    I think we have good plans here to make ilevels much closer in WoD than MoP. (Source)

    a lot of problems with battle fatigue in duel...not applied .Is Battle fatigue removed in wod?
    A goal for WoD is for Battle Fatigue & Base Resilience to be as low as possible. This has broad implications. (Source)

    One quick question as someone asked. RBG was TotG too, yes? I'm sure I heard H. say so.
    Yes, RBGs will have TotG too. (Source)

    Horde towers are much easier to defend; gives a large advantage to the Alliance UNLESS can wipe on Galv.
    We're looking at what we can do on the map, but it will take a long time to change community opinion (Source)

    will there be LoS objects around the central fighting points in Ashran?
    Yes we're designing the contested areas with LoS in mind (Source)
    Will hunters still have quad damage stampede, and various other things that only apply in arena fixed to be v. player?
    Our design for the area is a PvP playground with an emphasis on atmosphere, exploration & participation. (Source)
    A lot of things are going to feel "crazy" and OP out there. Be forewarned. (Source)

    Holiday Events
    More world events please. More server wide events. More quests like "Only one may rise"!
    I'd love to do more stuff like that, totally. (Source)

    Dave, if you work on holiday events in WoW, could you guys raise ilevel of the holiday drops? To Timeless Isle at least.
    The item peeps generally bump the player power drops once per expansion, in tune w/ the level/ability bump the encounter peeps do. (Source)
    but by adding Timeless Isle you've allowed people to skip catch-up content, making holiday drops sort of useless. It's a shame.
    I understand what you're saying! Still, if people are killing Ahune only for his cloaks, I have failed horribly. T_T (Source)
    no, for his scythe! Lol. Wow is a "loot-porn" game. Heard the term before? We want lootz. No worthy lootz? We don't run content.
    That's what I was saying: I'm more about snowing scythes and funky gas masks and flying hell-horses than magical ring item levels. (Source)
    fair enough, you're my kind of guy then! More snowing scythes and glowing horses please! Increase drop rate on Love Rocket!
    OG Love Rocket was like Broom (i.e. everyone during LiitA) but so funky and loved by team I had to make it a VERY rare permanent. (Source)

    Fan Art
    Another nice piece of Hearthstone art today from breathing2004.

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    Interesting numbers.

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    I kind of hope they just overhaul low level gear. It's still following a lot of Vanilla/BC stat theory and makes no sense in todays game.

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    I love breathing's stained glass mosaic pieces.

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    They need to make starting area white gear Moggable, Worgen and Goblin and Pandaren custom models are just a waste unless you're a role player like me.

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    i'm very interested at the proving grounds data. seeing as there were blue posts and even GC tweets talking about "how popular the proving grounds feature was"

    but those numbers seem to tell a very different story. and i'm sure they have even more data beyond achieves, about how many attempted but failed too. how can they say how "popular" it was and use it as a template for future content with these numbers?

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    Every time I see "finding the right time & place," in this way, I get kinda depressed. I imagine the game 15 years from now, when the transmog system will be totally complete and we'll have subraces and all that good stuff, and the twelve people still playing the game will be sitting around waiting for something to do with all of it.

    They need to stop waiting for a time and place and just do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moveth View Post
    I kind of hope they just overhaul low level gear. It's still following a lot of Vanilla/BC stat theory and makes no sense in todays game.
    I hate low level gear, they need to do a quick clean up on things for WOD.

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    Am I the only one that sees Green Jesus being well.... Green Jesus in that mosaic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlahBlahFrigginBlah View Post
    i'm very interested at the proving grounds data. seeing as there were blue posts and even GC tweets talking about "how popular the proving grounds feature was"

    but those numbers seem to tell a very different story. and i'm sure they have even more data beyond achieves, about how many attempted but failed too. how can they say how "popular" it was and use it as a template for future content with these numbers?
    Maybe they tried but were just bad and couldn't complete it? Only 50% of the playerbase being able to complete even bronze seems pretty in line with my impression of them. Endless 30 is no easy feat either.

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    I'm really hoping they add stuff like this:



    Definitely would change how much time I spend on my toons... I'm sick of all that crappy armor designs we see nowadays... Warrior T16? More like a human (or orcish) lighthouse...
    We need (at least the RP community) more options for transmog!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizzet View Post
    Maybe they tried but were just bad and couldn't complete it? Only 50% of the playerbase being able to complete even bronze seems pretty in line with my impression of them. Endless 30 is no easy feat either.
    actually i never went past endless 10 myself, and have never even done bronze/silver/gold on my main. never really felt the need to go do it with so many other in-game grinds that have actual rewards to still be unlocked for
    i say a lot of things.
    some of them may be sarcastic, rude, or insulting.
    but if you read carefully, i dont aim to insult people, and very rarely trolling ~ its my honest opinion. if you think im talking about you, go get some coffee and read it again later.
    have a nice day.

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    Augh I wish I knew about the open raid thing. Ladies represent!!!!

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    Armory Stat suggestion: I would like to see the % of players who have the "logged on during X anniversary" FoS. I'm curious to see how many current players have been here since achievements came out. It would give some good insight on also on what the ratio of old players vs new ones.

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    go girl team!

    and i wonder how many of them are actually girls though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marema View Post
    Armory Stat suggestion: I would like to see the % of players who have the "logged on during X anniversary" FoS. I'm curious to see how many current players have been here since achievements came out. It would give some good insight on also on what the ratio of old players vs new ones.
    Yeah, that is already on the todo list.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlahBlahFrigginBlah View Post
    but those numbers seem to tell a very different story. and i'm sure they have even more data beyond achieves, about how many attempted but failed too. how can they say how "popular" it was and use it as a template for future content with these numbers?
    ~45% of all players doing something isn't too bad for a feature that has no real rewards or significant advertising of the feature in game.
    Last edited by chaud; 2014-01-06 at 02:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlahBlahFrigginBlah View Post
    i'm very interested at the proving grounds data. seeing as there were blue posts and even GC tweets talking about "how popular the proving grounds feature was"

    but those numbers seem to tell a very different story. and i'm sure they have even more data beyond achieves, about how many attempted but failed too. how can they say how "popular" it was and use it as a template for future content with these numbers?
    getting 45% of your player base to do something sounds fairly popular especially with a game that caters to such a wide variety of players that WoW does. There are also those that just dont care and we dont know who has tried or just doent want to challenge themselves or try to improve themselves. It is an optional feature. Personally I did proving grounds on the PTR and havent cared to do it on live. Maybe if I pick up the game again and PuGs start requiring it or it helps me bypass over bloated LFD and LFR ilvl requirements then sure I will do them. If proving grounds rewarded LFR level gear then the "popularity" might just go up.

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    That Blue tweet knows people won't stop running Frost Lord Ahune until they get that scythe. I won't stop until I get it on all my Staff-equipping characters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlahBlahFrigginBlah View Post
    actually i never went past endless 10 myself, and have never even done bronze/silver/gold on my main. never really felt the need to go do it with so many other in-game grinds that have actual rewards to still be unlocked for
    Good for you, whatever makes you happy. I personally don't care for tangible rewards much as raiding already supplies plenty, I went for endless 30 solely for the prestige of the title.

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    Fucking proving grounds. What a waste of time. If I wanted to so solo content I would go play a bloody solo game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nekobaka View Post
    getting 45% of your player base to do something sounds fairly popular especially with a game that caters to such a wide variety of players that WoW does. There are also those that just dont care and we dont know who has tried or just doent want to challenge themselves or try to improve themselves. It is an optional feature. Personally I did proving grounds on the PTR and havent cared to do it on live. Maybe if I pick up the game again and PuGs start requiring it or it helps me bypass over bloated LFD and LFR ilvl requirements then sure I will do them. If proving grounds rewarded LFR level gear then the "popularity" might just go up.
    The 45% thing though.... you are sent to do it by a yellow quest from the shrine. the steep dropoff of how many continued to do it after completing the initial quest with the bronze run shows how unpopular it in fact is.

    see what i mean?
    wasnt knocking the feature, i just dont see how these numbers translate to how eager the devs are to make it an integrated part in future content
    i say a lot of things.
    some of them may be sarcastic, rude, or insulting.
    but if you read carefully, i dont aim to insult people, and very rarely trolling ~ its my honest opinion. if you think im talking about you, go get some coffee and read it again later.
    have a nice day.

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