They are one of the best melee...
They are one of the best melee...
Assassination and Combat are boring as sin; but lately i've been trying Subtlety both in PvE/PvP, and to me it's an incredibly fun/engaging spec.
That said, I won't get too attached to the class just yet; it's definitely due, or at least implied to be due, a large revamp on the scale of what Warlocks got for MoP. Mainly because a lot of the specs feel very similar, when it comes down to it. With a couple of exceptions here and there, it's pretty much how Murdeh put it on the first page.
“In keeping silent about evil, in burying it so deep within us that no sign of it appears on the surface, we are implanting it, and it will rise up a thousand fold in the future. When we neither punish nor reproach evildoers, we are not simply protecting their trivial old age, we are thereby ripping the foundations of justice from beneath new generations.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918-1956
Rogues are amazing especially on the last three heroic fights. During progression, rogues and warlocks seemed to be the two stacked classes in top raiding guilds. Reasons seem to have been listed already but generally high survivability and damage.
Gimping? We manage to kill Fallen protectors without no issue with a decent kill time ( we think 6/7 min is a good time, remember we are not experts or hardcore ), this tactic works pretty well for us and we never had any problem with that.
Why being so aggressive? Ofc they can interrupt but we decided to keep interrupts with me. Also, it would be great if you share some suggestions regarding some bosses it would be more constructive for this thread instead acting like the way you described yourself.
Lowering your personal damage while not increasing the warrior dps for free (if you have one) is considered gimping the raid.
A witty saying proves nothing.
not quite Batman
After 9years of playing rogue (and warrior) in pvp, i have put my rogue (and warrior) on the side for a while.
At this time i'm enjoying Monk in PVP, although it doesn't have the same "mobility feel" as rogues it has some nice and fun abilities to annoy people.
Rogue mechanics are outdated and need a rework in order to make it more enjoyable again.
As far as the warrior goes it completely lost it's charm since stance dance isn't required anymore, shield-wall without shield ( WADAFAQ ) and everything can be one-button which i find retarded. (Call me old fashion but i don't use any Macros )
So Goodbye good old stale Rogue we had fun, victories and losses. May WoD revive you !
how are the specs performin in 543 ilvl gear? i just came back for a bit of fun, noxxic says subtlety is best but i don't believe it.
In any event, it's close. If you run sub, you'll outdamage muti. At 543, I don't think combat is boss- the real thing is, combat got a substantial nerf this patch to compensate for Assurance of Consequence, the trinket from Sha of Pride. If you don't have this trinket, combat is not that great, and sub takes a hit too. The amount by which you'll outdamage muti won't be large, and if you are happier with mutilate run that. As you get into better gear (and once you have assurance) you will DEFINITELY want to check out combat. If you have assurance now, sub will definitely be better than mutilate (assuming you use your cooldowns on cooldown), and you should also check into combat.
I don't think we need to debate language enough to go into whether or not a 50% gap is a "paling in comparison" between two abilities in WoW. A statement was made, then it was clarified with respect to 10-man by someone else, and lets leave it at that. Just nipping this linguistic discussion here.
It was even said that "we like the rogue system, we wish every class would work like this." <- Not literal quote. Can't find the original one.
So don't expect any overhaul. Of any kind. You can do two things:
1. Accept the way it is.
2. Play another class.
I haven't given up playing my rogue yet. But I'm getting my alts ready for when I do.
Last edited by Topcraft; 2014-01-10 at 09:26 AM. Reason: spelling
Originally Posted by Vaneras