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Teenager, 14, who had allergic reaction to peanuts at Chinese buffet died in the street after chemist refused to give her a life-saving adrenaline injection
So ignoring all the shoulda/woulda/coulda from the story, Could you do what this Pharmacist did and not attempt/save the persons life who is practically dying in front of you even if you had all the means to do so.
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2013-12-30, 01:51 PM #1Field Marshal
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Would you save someones life even if it meant you broke a Law. This Pharmacist didnt.
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2013-12-30, 01:59 PM #2Titan
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Is there anything to indicate that the pharmacist knew she was telling the truth? As in, was her daughter actually there in front of him?
Originally Posted by blake22tt
Yeah, it sucks, but if people gave restricted drugs to anyone with a sob story, it wouldn't be a very good policy.
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2013-12-30, 01:59 PM #3Legendary!
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Hindsight is 20/20. What if the pharmacist gave the girl the drug, and she died from the injection? Pharmacists are not medical doctors.
I don't like blaming individuals, but honestly, if you have a serious allergy, you shouldn't leave home without an epi-pen, ever.Eat yo vegetables
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2013-12-30, 02:01 PM #4Titan
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Yes, but only hypothetically if I knew they would die otherwise. Realistically I can't imagine being in such a position.
Originally Posted by Endus
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2013-12-30, 02:01 PM #5Deleted
depends, the story isn't clear if the girl dying was also there (in the pharmacy) or not. if i saw her myself, i would have given out the pen, because it's obvious that she needs it and i can see her having the reaction. if the mum came up to me and asked without the child, then i would refuse, she could be asking for any reason. i'm confused why she didn't call an ambulance though, because the ambulance would have epipens in there, or could demand it from the pharmacist...
also...was meant to say the second point, but forgot. it is far too true Originally Posted by PRE 9-11
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2013-12-30, 02:01 PM #6Immortal
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I would but it depends on which law.
Wouldn't think twice about breaking a law with something petty as a Adrenaline shot
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2013-12-30, 02:01 PM #7Deleted
Isn't it illegal not to help someone in need?
Also what about the Hippocratic Oath?
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2013-12-30, 02:02 PM #8Elemental Lord
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First of all, dailymail...........
Secondly,
Family rushed to a nearby pharmacy
Why would anyone go to a pharmacy instead of the hospital? Or call an ambulance? I'm sure they have an EpiPen on them.
But would I break the law to save someone? Sure. But I wouldn't give them drugs that I'm forbidden to sell without a prescription.
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2013-12-30, 02:02 PM #9The Insane
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Does a pharmacist take said Oath? Originally Posted by JfmC
However I don't believe Epinephrine is habit forming or anything, so I can see why the question arises compared to, say, Morphine or something.
I'm not sure I can answer OP's question without actually being in the situation. Originally Posted by xanzul
Uh...yes. Absolutely. Originally Posted by obdigore
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2013-12-30, 02:03 PM #10Deletedpharmacists are not doctors, pretty sure they don't swear to the hippcratic oath Originally Posted by JfmC
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2013-12-30, 02:03 PM #11Immortal
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I'm not sure why those are restricted to prescriptions anyway. It's not like there aren't a hundred thousand other things you could kill yourself with that aren't, and they aren't a drug people would take recreationally. (because hey, we need to regulate people getting high for fun, right?)
If it was over the counter, there wouldn't be any question. Problem solved?Last edited by Daerio; 2013-12-30 at 02:05 PM.
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2013-12-30, 02:03 PM #12Deleted
In the UK pharmacists are allowed to give out a drug without a prescription if they can contact a medical professional who can confirm your medical records over the phone. I've had medication given to me without prescription after a phone call to my doctors surgery confirmed - just a temporary dosage until I could get a prescription or be seen by an emergency doctor. I don't know if Dublin follows the same rules, but if not, they really should.
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2013-12-30, 02:03 PM #13Titan
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Depends on what the repurcussions could be for me and what the law looks like, as I don't know much about it. First of all, is there risk of physical danger to me? If so, then I probably wouldn't help unless they're friend or family, or friend of a friend/family.
Legally - say I gave the cure, and the patient then died, would I be responsible? Say I was in the situation in the article but gave the cure and the patient then died, would I be convicted of manslaughter? If that's a possibility then I most definitely wouldn't try and help them. What would be the punishment for doling out a restricted substance without the required paperwork, even in an emergency, would I be cleared of that? Would the family of the victim/the victim themselves indemnify me for all the problems that resulted from the well intentioned act?http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...nicus/advanced
Originally Posted by goblinpaladin
Originally Posted by Orlong
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2013-12-30, 02:11 PM #14Scarab Lord
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Upon seeing the girl the pharmacist should be able to judge whether or not the need for an EpiPen is real, people supposedly coming for "a fix" should be easily spotted, it was idiotic of this pharmacist to deny the drug. It's not a dangerous drug for someone healthy and young and upon seeing someone struggling with their breathing and family members screaming in despair I can honestly not imagine what this pharmacist was thinking.
he or she will have to live with the fact that they let someone die.
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2013-12-30, 02:14 PM #15Titan
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Pharmacists are Not doctors. Originally Posted by JfmC
READ and be less Ignorant.
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2013-12-30, 02:14 PM #16The Insane
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Nowhere in the story does it say the Pharmacist saw the girl. The mother ran to the Pharmacy and asked for an EpiPen. Originally Posted by Shiny212
Originally Posted by xanzul
Uh...yes. Absolutely. Originally Posted by obdigore
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2013-12-30, 02:15 PM #17Warchief
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Actually, in the US, pharmacists are doctors. Their official title is Doctor of Pharmacy or PharmD. Originally Posted by suitepee7
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2013-12-30, 02:16 PM #18Titan
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These but if i think he/she is faking it, then Bye bye... Originally Posted by Mionelol
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2013-12-30, 02:21 PM #19Titan
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Well, you can have a doctorate in many fields...doesn't usually make you qualified to decide on a method of treatment for an ailment or injury. Originally Posted by SogPig
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2013-12-30, 02:25 PM #20Immortal
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although pharmacists are not doctors, I think he should have been able to make the call and decide if it is worth the risk. I am not familiar with the education a pharmacist receives, but I assume they should be able to distinguish legitimate from fake actions.
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