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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by BadVaal View Post
    From the classes/specs I tried its Shadow Priest for me as no. 1 followed by ww monk. I also didnt like the start of MoP as a bear tank, the new tree split up was confusing and tbh I liked it more before when I could utilize skills as cat and bear depending on the situation rather than how now the class seems half crippled considering druids are supposed to be true hybrids.
    Hey hey hey now ass, I'm really loving the new Druid tactic of boring your opponent to death is FUN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by threadz View Post
    The racial isn't that much of a big deal anymore. Most of my friends that pvp a lot just like the look of humans.
    That lumpy butt run, that stupid swing. I can't understand this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wxcopy View Post
    totally ot, but the human representation is over the top. FIX RACIALS NOW.
    Oh yes please. Time to nerf those Horde PvE racials to the ground. =)

    Quote Originally Posted by hakujinbakasama View Post
    Hey hey hey now ass, I'm really loving the new Druid tactic of boring your opponent to death is FUN!
    How's that new? I remember druids doing that ever since Season 2 or 3.

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    Don't know maybe the mentioned marks. A lot of specs had phases of weakness but marks probably didn't even really hit mediocrity while most others had at least one somewhat redeeming moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cFortyfive View Post
    Don't know maybe the mentioned marks. A lot of specs had phases of weakness but marks probably didn't even really hit mediocrity while most others had at least one somewhat redeeming moment.
    Eh, it would be hard to argue that spriest even achieved mediocrity. Boomkin only got there briefly at high gear levels.

    Marks may well have been in the dumper all expansion, but OTOH hunters have two other ranged DPS specs to choose from. Druids don't have any other ranged DPS, and priests don't have any other DPS period.

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    In PvE: Hunters. MW Monks. And no tank that I know of.

    In PvP: Spriests. MW Monks. Blood DKs.

  7. #227
    Whats opposite of the fotm class? They probably sucked the most. WW monk, shadow priest, moonkin, arms warrior, mm hunter. For pve in no particular order.

    Also I'm laughing at the mages complaining about one tier of talents.

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    To me, it was WW monks, the mastery issues were insane and stupid that they still can't make something decent; it went from ok (energy capping aside, I liked the random procs, it felt fun to me), to bad (not because it wasn't powerful in ToT, but because it over-centrailized on 1 lousy trinket that we all know never dropped for you when you needed it), to eh (I dislike the whole focus on a brew). Add in that the devs still have their heads up their asses that we players aren't doing WW right since we don't use FoF on CD (let alone how awkward it is to use to begin with) and that the devs would rather tinker/nerf/mess with MW and the whole fistweaving crap (I thought when people weren't complaining as much in the initial incarnation they probably got it right) over addressing the spec most monks probably play, yeah...what is actually a fun class to play and level isn't that competitive in raiding or pvp and that's probably why it'll sink even lower behind locks and rogues as least played class/spec in WoD.

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by Normie View Post
    Eh, it would be hard to argue that spriest even achieved mediocrity. Boomkin only got there briefly at high gear levels.
    Well both shadow and owl seemed to perform decent to me at some time during this addon. Can't really remember shadow or owl being that bad in the previous tiers even if it may be only for their support as of course they were obviously being overshadowed damage wise by the other cloth specs but who wasn't. I am not saying they have been rockstars but the lack of any noteworthy support does make hunter not as appealing to me personally.

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    I felt the wrath of blizzard all expansion as a shadow priest. Some one at blizz took out some hate on us.

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    Whatever class/spec I play suffered the most.
    Whatever class/spec I don't play that kills/out dps/out heals/out tanks me was the best.

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  12. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilostromrage View Post
    I felt the wrath of blizzard all expansion as a shadow priest. Some one at blizz took out some hate on us.
    Since GC confirmed he was what, holy priest, probably an attempt by him to make all priests go heals.

    /tinfoil hat

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    I'm gonna have to go with monk as a whole. They suffered of the syndrome "we don't want to make an OP class like the DK, so we're just gonna do the opposite... you know we're blizzard we can't make it in between"

    Also : we need a poll !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neow View Post
    I'm gonna have to go with monk as a whole. They suffered of the syndrome "we don't want to make an OP class like the DK, so we're just gonna do the opposite... you know we're blizzard we can't make it in between"

    Also : we need a poll !
    I would have to say that the reason monk has the lowest %age representation of all classes is NOT just because it's new. (Rogues and warlocks, rejoice!)

    Meanwhile, there are probably people who think that GC went disc the first 2/3 of the expansion.

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    Shadow Priest and Hunters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hakujinbakasama View Post
    I've tried explaining this concept to people on other subjects and you'd be surprised how much the average Joe cannot understand "intervals."

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    I believe that Prot Warriors and Holy Priests suffer from the same illness. ALL THE BUTTONS are belong to us!
    They both have TOO much shit. It doesn't matter if that 1 spell is situational, you're going to need it. Because the moment you don't have it on a bar, that is exactly when the moment will fucking arrive.
    As holy I love having lots of buttons (and we don't really have that much more than other healers, tbh). The problem is passive buffs forcing you to choose which leg to shoot, slow heals, and not enough synergy between spells. And of course the fact we bring nothing to the table that makes us stand out and be wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xezar View Post
    Since GC confirmed he was what, holy priest, probably an attempt by him to make all priests go heals.

    /tinfoil hat
    It was an attempt to silence all priests complaining about Holy, or heck, maybe even troll them considering how bad Holy throughout the expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clash1 View Post
    If you have written Shadow Priest in this thread, then you have lost grip of reality.

    Frost DKs and MM Hunters have the right to complain more than any other. These are two specs that should be competitive that have not been for the majority of this expansion. Unholy and Arms would qualify if not for success in PvP.

    I will give a distant honorable mention to all the mages. They have brought the damage all expansion long, but most of the changes made to them for MoP has turned out awful. Fun has been sucked out of the class.
    Clearly never played or seen a spriest this entire expansion, wonder why =)

    A few specs suffered because they were used to being strong, shadow priests were never particularly strong at any point this expansion (apart from pvp 5.1 which didn't last very long)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neow View Post
    I'm gonna have to go with monk as a whole. They suffered of the syndrome "we don't want to make an OP class like the DK, so we're just gonna do the opposite... you know we're blizzard we can't make it in between"
    bold statement considering pretty much each monk spec had a strong phase although I'd guess the ww one was rather short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flowsion View Post
    Clearly never played or seen a spriest this entire expansion, wonder why =)

    A few specs suffered because they were used to being strong, shadow priests were never particularly strong at any point this expansion (apart from pvp 5.1 which didn't last very long)
    Yeah, seriously, except for the few patient souls who have made it to very high gear levels as shadow, the spec is just one big downer to play.

    I thought the Cata version of shadow was fun, even though it was middle of the road at best at 85. But the MoP combination of the revamp of the spec and the very poor single target damage and the nerfed self-heals, bleah, just bleah. Useful only for raiding and not much else.

  20. #240
    Blood DK's.

    Give me a fight where you wouldn't want a Blood DK...don't worry, I'll help you out. Garajal HC, Sha HC, Horridon HC, Ra-Den, Malk HC.

    Now give me a fight where you'd love to have a Blood DK.

    Exactly.

    I think what the blue said about DK's has been true this entire expansion somewhat (can't fully speak for both DPS specs), aside from Unholy having a moment in the sun with Festerblight in 5.2.

    People see patterns where they aren't. Nothing to do with scaling as you imagine. DKs simply lacking fights to shine this tier.
    As a tank, I think that statement is true as well.

    But that's just my opinion, (I play both a Blood DK and a BRM monk)
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