View Poll Results: Which one is harder?

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  • Lei Shen HC

    253 75.98%
  • Garrosh HC

    80 24.02%
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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Niight974 View Post
    Dude stop embarrassing yourself , you're telling that everyone (include the OP) is wrong and that you're right ..... but you're the only one who don't understand what the OP intend to ask in first place.

    It's being full retard to compare 2 boss from different tiers with the same ilvl.


    PS: C'thun in 570+ilvl is a joke ! i don't understand why people took so long to kill him back then ! ! (sarcasm inside)
    How in my embarrassing myself when I'm not the one who doesn't know how to make clear statements. The op said a vs b. he did not say a with this this and this vs b with this this and this.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Imhere View Post
    How in my embarrassing myself when I'm not the one who doesn't know how to make clear statements. The op said a vs b. he did not say a with this this and this vs b with this this and this.
    It's implied. Everyone else understood, you didn't. Let it go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imhere View Post
    How in my embarrassing myself when I'm not the one who doesn't know how to make clear statements. The op said a vs b. he did not say a with this this and this vs b with this this and this.
    So how comes everyone understood what the OP said but not you ?
    He did not have to say it in details because it's again common sense to compare 2 bosses from different tier with the same ilvl.
    If we follow your logic the hardest boss will always be the last, and that's just wrong.
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  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Imhere View Post
    How in my embarrassing myself when I'm not the one who doesn't know how to make clear statements. The op said a vs b. he did not say a with this this and this vs b with this this and this.
    It was very clearly implied. Not everything needs to be explained with absolute clarity regarding every detail, you're literally the only person here who has displayed such an ineptitude to understand a basic question.

  5. #65
    garrosh isn't even the hardest boss in his own tier

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Imhere View Post
    H lei Shen is faceroll with 570 ilvl. H garrosh is not. How does that not make sense
    The question is when it was current, of course.

    By your reasoning, only the last boss in each expansion can be considered the hardest, because all previous tiers are obviously overgeared and made a lot easier.

    C'thun, kaelthas, Muru, Yogg Saron and ragnaros say hi.

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Imhere View Post
    H lei Shen is faceroll with 570 ilvl. H garrosh is not. How does that not make sense
    If they scaled the Ilvl of each fight to the same number (ex.400ilvl) Lei shen would be harder than garrosh. garrosh only depends on dps. where as lei shen was all about execution.

  8. #68
    Why do you keep on feeding the troll so much? :'(

  9. #69
    If you don't think Garrosh is a lot easier at 570 ilevel+, your guilds dps is very bad
    Last edited by Jetjaguar; 2014-01-02 at 01:23 AM.
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  10. #70
    Lei Shen all the way Garrosh is hands down a numbers check nothing to crazy

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    Both Lei Shen and Garrosh in my opinion disappointed me when it comes to Heroic version, but atleast there was a boss after Lei Shen HC

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Imhere View Post
    H lei Shen is faceroll with 570 ilvl. H garrosh is not. How does that not make sense
    So by your logic every boss of every expansion after Vanilla was harder than C'thun?

    You take the gear that the typical guild had when doing Lei Shen and the gear the typical guild will have when doing Garrosh and compare on that basis. This is obvious wether it was stated or not.

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    I wonder how many people commenting even killed one of those.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Jetjaguar View Post
    If you don't think Garrosh is a lot easier at 570 ilevel+, your guilds dps is very bad
    Only an idiot from your guild would make the sweeping statement that the majority of people who have already killed heroic garrosh are bad.

    Infracted; Do not insult people just cause you disagree with them.
    Last edited by Sonnillon; 2014-01-02 at 06:14 AM.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by xiic View Post
    Only an idiot from your guild would make the sweeping statement that the majority of people who have already killed heroic garrosh are bad.
    My point is that Garrosh is significantly affected by item level because its mostly a gear check fight with maybe 2-3 points that require any amount of high level coordination. Skipping whirling corruptions/MCs/Desecrates makes a pretty noticeable difference. Our guild was 570 and we would still skip things that were seen in other videos of top guilds. It made the fight a lot easier and it's something you couldn't really pull off on Lei Shen pre-5.3 patch.

    You're mad though.
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  16. #76
    This shouldn't even be a poll. Lei Shen was miles more difficult than Garrosh. Animus progression was more difficult than Garrosh. Siegecrafter was more difficult than Garrosh.

    Garrosh is nothing but a numbers check for 90% of the fight other than right before the last phase.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by xiic View Post
    Only an idiot from your guild would make the sweeping statement that the majority of people who have already killed heroic garrosh are bad.
    I think you did not read what he said.

    He said that if you think Garrosh at 570+ ilvl is harder than Lei-Shen was at relevant gear levels, then you never left the '70s.
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    I am so tired of seeing terrible people, being admired, for being terrible people.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by xiic View Post
    Only an idiot from your guild would make the sweeping statement that the majority of people who have already killed heroic garrosh are bad.
    Nice kill date you clown. get mad

    Infracted; Post constructively.
    Last edited by Sonnillon; 2014-01-02 at 06:09 AM.

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Tehterokkar View Post
    Mechanics: Lei Shen
    Gear check: Garrosh

    Pug difficulty: Garrosh >>>>> Lei Shen

    Lei Shen was super easy to pug because the only thing you had to pretty much survive was the 1st transition and then it was all good(assuming you disabled the chain lightning conduit). Garrosh is just a mess for pugs when Mind controls come in, and the adds from Empowered Whirlwind are pretty much the cause of all wipes...
    How is the mechanically difficult fight easier to pug then the gear check fight.....

    Lei Shen was harder in every way. The DPS check was just as tight if not tighter (before ilvl upgrades came out and people were doing it with 545 ilvl). The personal responsibility required ti survive the transitions were harder then anything someone has to do on Garrosh. If you used battle rezes before P3 it made P3 10x harder because you wouldnt be able to rez the people who died from static shock. It was always fun when a DK had to die and you had no rezes left...

  20. #80
    Quote Originally Posted by Firefly33 View Post
    I think you did not read what he said.

    He said that if you think Garrosh at 570+ ilvl is harder than Lei-Shen was at relevant gear levels, then you never left the '70s.
    Can you point to the place in his post where he mentions Lei Shen?

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