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    First Gaming Build- Budget

    Hey guys! I just tried making my first build. I'm a complete newbie at this, so please, please give me any critiques!

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    CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($113.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: MSI B75MA-P45 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($72.27 @ TigerDirect)
    Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Corsair Force Series GT 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.23 @ Amazon)
    Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($115.38 @ Newegg)
    Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Antec Basiq 350W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Amazon)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
    Total: $636.81
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-06 01:26 EST-0500)

    I am trying to make this as good as possible, for about $650. Less money would be ideal, but it's okay if not. If there are anythings I can downgrade on, please let me know. Conversely, if there are upgrades to make let me know as well.

    This build will be used for WoW, Wildstar, Sims 3 and such. So lower-end visually demanding games, but I would really like to be able to play them decently.

    Thank you in advance!
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    Better... well... everything, honestly. Your original build is fine, however this one, for the same price, is better in almost every area. CPU is a good 20% better, better GPU, PSU, SSD.

    PCPartPicker part list
    CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($132.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock H81M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.92 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($120.38 @ Newegg)
    Case: Antec VSK-3000 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
    Total: $612.22
    Gaming: Dual Intel Pentium III Coppermine @ 1400mhz + Blue Orb | Asus CUV266-D | GeForce 2 Ti + ZF700-Cu | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 | Whistler Build 2267
    Media: Dual Intel Drake Xeon @ 600mhz | Intel Marlinspike MS440GX | Matrox G440 | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 @ 166mhz | Windows 2000 Pro

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    Since this is a budget build, I doubt you plan to add another 8gig later? Then you want 2 piece kit for dual channel.
    Do you have old HDD? Just having windows and WoW on the SSD will be around half it's capacity.

    This is with 3.4ghz cpu and bigger SSD:
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    CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: Asus H81M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($57.93 @ OutletPC)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($94.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
    Total: $606.84
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-06 03:00 EST-0500)

    This is 3.6ghz CPU and better SSD:
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    CPU: Intel Core i3-4340 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($159.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: Asus H81M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($57.93 @ OutletPC)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($99.92 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($94.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
    Total: $616.76
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-06 03:01 EST-0500)

    This might be streching abit, but this would be the best around your budget:

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    CPU: Intel Core i3-4340 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($159.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: Asus H81M-E Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($57.93 @ OutletPC)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($147.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($94.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Rosewill FBM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($88.98 @ OutletPC)
    Total: $664.82
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-06 03:02 EST-0500)

    Unless you have old sata HDD then you can keep the 120gb SSD.

    I had to change PSU with more W as 7770ghz edition seems to draw around 230W under full load and 450W is listed as 'required' for it.
    For the same price you can go for, in my opinion, nice looking case http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cougar-case-spike

    Edit:
    derped on my part with the old CPU >.< fixed :O
    Last edited by Cyrops; 2014-01-06 at 08:04 AM.
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    If you're okay with a little bit of MIR to squeeze it down to ~$650, this would be my suggestion:

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i3-4130 3.4GHz Dual-Core Processor ($119.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: MSI H81M-E33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($53.99 @ Mwave)
    Memory: Corsair 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($61.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Crucial M500 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($85.99 @ SuperBiiz)
    Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX Power Supply ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - OEM (64-bit) ($94.98 @ OutletPC)
    Total: $641.91
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-06 02:43 EST-0500)

    If you're fine with the price this will get you the best performance.

    80mm fan in the other case is probably (?) going to be annoying to listen to. So this case is probably slightly "better" and comes with UBS 3.0 front which probably don't matter but hey it's there. There is another one for around $30 with 2x120mm fans but the aesthetics are quite different with its green and window but I thought I'd mention it:

    DIYPC Solar-M1-G Black

    Much better GPU which will last you longer, 1GB vRAM is kinda meh unless you must save some money. Edit, I just now saw the Chazus build while typing this, still a non Boost model and it's still going to cost a bit more. since it's out of stock at some vendor.

    I picked Windows 8, slightly more expensive but I see little reason to buy Windows 7 now, up to you of course.
    Last edited by mmocca5d152c38; 2014-01-06 at 08:02 AM.

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    Thanks guys! This is going to be a difficult decision!

    I think that I may go with Chazus, though the other builds you guys gave me are a just as tempting.
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    $10-20 more is well worth the changes, that is nothing in the long run. Why knows what you might be playing in 6-12 months from now. you're not giving up anything else really to fit the 660 in, both SSD's are perfectly reliable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Notarget View Post
    $10-20 more is well worth the changes, that is nothing in the long run. Why knows what you might be playing in 6-12 months from now. you're not giving up anything else really to fit the 660 in, both SSD's are perfectly reliable.
    I totally agree, those 20 extra bucks could save the OP from some future trouble.

    GTX 650 Ti --> GTX 660 is a quite major step for so little money, not only do you get quite a bit of extra performance but 2GB of VRAM which almost is and certainly will be mandatory even for playing games at low setting@1080p (Except for WoW that is).
    1GB of VRAM 2014 is really low and will get outdated in no time.

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    Actually the 660 is only about 8-10% more than the 650ti Boost. However, as pointed out, that's the 1GB version. The 2GB 650ti Boost is only like $5 cheaper than the 660, so you may as well gte the 660... But if 1gb is workable, then the 650ti Boost would be a better price/performance choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chazus View Post
    Actually the 660 is only about 8-10% more than the 650ti Boost. However, as pointed out, that's the 1GB version. The 2GB 650ti Boost is only like $5 cheaper than the 660, so you may as well gte the 660... But if 1gb is workable, then the 650ti Boost would be a better price/performance choice.
    The graphics card you put in your suggestion was a GTX 650 Ti non-Boost though so the difference is bigger.
    1GB really is stupid to buy in 2014 IMO, a few bucks more for the GTX 660 is so worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uzanar View Post
    The graphics card you put in your suggestion was a GTX 650 Ti non-Boost though so the difference is bigger.
    Ah, right you are. I didn't even notice that. Yeah, the 660 is definitely a significant change from the normal 650ti. I still think the 650ti would be acceptable, however the 660 would be a worthwhile purchase if you can swing a few more bucks.
    Gaming: Dual Intel Pentium III Coppermine @ 1400mhz + Blue Orb | Asus CUV266-D | GeForce 2 Ti + ZF700-Cu | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 | Whistler Build 2267
    Media: Dual Intel Drake Xeon @ 600mhz | Intel Marlinspike MS440GX | Matrox G440 | 1024mb Crucial PC-133 @ 166mhz | Windows 2000 Pro

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazus View Post
    Ah, right you are. I didn't even notice that. Yeah, the 660 is definitely a significant change from the normal 650ti. I still think the 650ti would be acceptable, however the 660 would be a worthwhile purchase if you can swing a few more bucks.
    I even mentioned it in my post, you should know I wouldn't be "correcting it" otherwise Also I wish Partpicker was better at filtering out "Out of stock" vendor like on the 650ti, makes it at least $10-25 extra, making the 660 difference less.

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