Night Elf Shaman Just Feels Right

[Tonath]

I agree with this, I wish they would make more shaman compatible races

[Auxis]

I feel like we should get a night elf paladin before night elf shamans.

I guess if a person connects really well on a spiritual level, they can become a shaman. But I could be wrong.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

Because Malfurion taught Hamuul a few things. That's why.

And Blizzard wanted to expand Druid lore from WC3 to WoW. Remember when all Druids had to be Night Elf males?

There's no compelling reason that every race shouldn't be allowed to be any class.

I doubt you can list one reason against allowing all races to be all classes that I would find compelling.

These are not the same thing.

[Wildmoon]

slightly inaccurate, but along the right vein of thought

Dwarves can be shamans because the Bronzebeards (playable dwarves) learnt it from Wildhammer shamans

the Wildhammer learnt Shamanism because they have strong ties with the elements, mirroring the Frostwolf Clan in some aspects (replace Frostwolves with Gryphons, replace frigid valley with troll-infested Hinterlands

until Cataclysm, when the Bronzebeards/Wildhammer finally started integrating their two cultures in earnest, no Bronzebeard had ever thought about becoming a shaman (most likely they were too engrossed with Titan technology and discovering their origins)

there's also no connection between the Earthen and the Elements, the fact they were made out of stone is simply because of the Earthens working environments (underground, shaping the world) was incredibly suited to being made out of stone; cave-in? no problem, they don't need food, water and have extremely tough exteriors, perfect for toiling in the deep places of Azeroth

the only reason they weren't made for fighting (like the Vrykul were) is that it seems more difficult to heal Earthen warriors, as they require special poultices or explosive bandages :P

on-topic, i think Night Elf Shamans make sense, especially considering Druidism is a specialization of Shamanism, where the Druid focuses on dealing with the Spirit of Life instead of the rest of the Elemental spirits

bold speculation. Druidism is more about working with ebbs and flow of Azeroth than communing with spirit. When Malfurion called a storm he didn't ask any kind of spirit. He simply harnessed the nature itself.

I know about the book that mentioned that there's spirit of the wild that are not very well known to shamans and it leads to speculation that Druid commands this aspect so druid must be shaman of some form. I simply don't agree. Having read WotA trilogy and Stormrage, the nature of Malfurion's power almost has nothing to do with spirits. He could speak with spirits but that's not where his power comes from.

[Venziir]

bold speculation. Druidism is more about working with ebbs and flow of Azeroth than communing with spirit. When Malfurion called a storm he didn't ask any kind of spirit. He simply harnessed the nature itself.

It's not just a speculation, it's flat out wrong.

[Shiny212]

There's no compelling reason that every race shouldn't be allowed to be any class. It opens up more gameplay options and emphasizes the idea that races should be purely cosmetic.

WHY OH WHY should they be purely cosmetic? I DONT UNDERSTAND this logic that everyone should be the same! MORE difference is what I want

[Deleted]

The lore has gone downhill ever since WoW launched imo so I'm all for every class being available to every race.

[Aleksej89]

Night elves are my fav race and shamans are my fav class - so i would LOVE if they could be used together

I think i have seen quite a few high/night/blood elves in the twilight hammer, so it seems very likely that night elves can become shamans lore-wise.

Plus their close ties to the draenei, who practice shamanism.

[Venziir]

Night elves are my fav race and shamans are my fav class - so i would LOVE if they could be used together

I think i have seen quite a few high/night/blood elves in the twilight hammer, so it seems very likely that night elves can become shamans lore-wise.

Plus their close ties to the draenei, who practice shamanism.

It's not like every member of the Twilights Hammer were Shaman though.

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WHY OH WHY should they be purely cosmetic? I DONT UNDERSTAND this logic that everyone should be the same! MORE difference is what I want

For once, we agree. How shocking honestly.

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The lore has gone downhill ever since WoW launched imo so I'm all for every class being available to every race.

Doesn't really make sense.

[Deleted]

Doesn't really make sense.

It does, though. Since it has gone downhill, I've lost interest in it and I no longer care whether the game follows it or not. In terms of gameplay mechanics that is.

[Venziir]

It does, though. Since it has gone downhill, I've lost interest in it and I no longer care whether the game follows it or not. In terms of gameplay mechanics that is.

Subjective jibber-jabber really.

[Deleted]

Why do people insist that stuff like this goes against lore? What lore? The lore from way back in the Warcraft games? Times change. Blizzard themselves said that as WoW went on, the different races would develop as societies. Because that's logical and realistic.

If anything, by the logic that we shouldn't change lore from the Warcraft games, the Forsaken would still be stuck in their thirst for vengeance against the Lich King. And honestly, that would have been incredibly boring if that had never changed. Story arcs need to change. Characters need to develop. By insisting we should stick to the story, we're stopping it from growing - and that isn't good at all.

Change and new ideas are needed. It's difficult to swallow sometimes, I admit, but there you have it.

[Wildmoon]

Why do people insist that stuff like this goes against lore? What lore? The lore from way back in the Warcraft games? Times change. Blizzard themselves said that as WoW went on, the different races would develop as societies. Because that's logical and realistic.

If anything, by the logic that we shouldn't change lore from the Warcraft games, the Forsaken would still be stuck in their thirst for vengeance against the Lich King. And honestly, that would have been incredibly boring if that had never changed. Story arcs need to change. Characters need to develop. By insisting we should stick to the story, we're stopping it from growing - and that isn't good at all.

Change and new ideas are needed. It's difficult to swallow sometimes, I admit, but there you have it.

Some flavor and prestige of the classes and races should also be preserved. Somethings that fit naturally would be welcomed but things should not be forced because someone just wanna play wierd combo.

[Venziir]

Because this fucking community is obsessed with min/maxing and "balance" at any cost.

Welcome to humanity, a race that tries to be better than it is.

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Why do people insist that stuff like this goes against lore? What lore? The lore from way back in the Warcraft games? Times change. Blizzard themselves said that as WoW went on, the different races would develop as societies. Because that's logical and realistic.

If anything, by the logic that we shouldn't change lore from the Warcraft games, the Forsaken would still be stuck in their thirst for vengeance against the Lich King. And honestly, that would have been incredibly boring if that had never changed. Story arcs need to change. Characters need to develop. By insisting we should stick to the story, we're stopping it from growing - and that isn't good at all.

Change and new ideas are needed. It's difficult to swallow sometimes, I admit, but there you have it.

Change for the sake of change isn't a good thing. Just like stagnation for the sake of stagnation isn't good either. Change is welcome, if it brings good things or new ideas, if not, then no thanks.

[Enthusiastic Steward]

Why do people insist that stuff like this goes against lore? What lore? The lore from way back in the Warcraft games? Times change. Blizzard themselves said that as WoW went on, the different races would develop as societies. Because that's logical and realistic.

If anything, by the logic that we shouldn't change lore from the Warcraft games, the Forsaken would still be stuck in their thirst for vengeance against the Lich King. And honestly, that would have been incredibly boring if that had never changed. Story arcs need to change. Characters need to develop. By insisting we should stick to the story, we're stopping it from growing - and that isn't good at all.

Change and new ideas are needed. It's difficult to swallow sometimes, I admit, but there you have it.

True, but there also needs to be some balance. Change just for the sake of change isn't any better than not changing anything.

[Deleted]

Some flavor and prestige of the classes and races should also be preserved. Somethings that fit naturally would be welcomed but things should not be forced because someone just wanna play wierd combo.

Change for the sake of change isn't a good thing. Just like stagnation for the sake of stagnation isn't good either. Change is welcome, if it brings good things or new ideas, if not, then no thanks.

Fair enough. I appreciate that every race needs unique flavour. In fact, that's one of the main reasons I like WoW so much, because of how each race/gender has different animations and home environments while other games, like TES, generalize all of the races. I just find it a bit odd how some people consider traditional lore for Warcraft as completely untouchable development-wise. Sorry if I came across as a bit... uh, forceful.

[Lodreh]

Also since elune is all about the light of the moon, why dont we have night elves being moonlight paladins?

If this was true I would race change so fast it would cause the internet whiplash.

[Futhark]

Dwarves make such excellent representatives for Shaman, that their three major Dwarven tribes are almost personifications of certain elements. This may even be the root of their conflict?

Ironforge: Earth
- They live within a mountain, work with metal, and are obsessed with exploring ruins for clues to their Earthen ancestry. Their king is currently a diamond!

Wildhammer: Air
- They live above the mountains, ride gryphons, and have lightning integrated within their culture. Cannot stand living underground and are always flying.

Dark Iron: Fire
- Live in a volcano, have a burnt appearance, are always angry, and bring magic-users to dwarven society. They tried to summon the Elemental Lord of Fire to Azeroth ffs.

Makes you wonder if there's a lost tribe of Water Dwarves out there.

But anyway, Night Elves no not care for the elements in this way. There's a big difference between the generative powers of nature, and the destructive power of the elements.

[Deleted]

Makes as much sense as Night Elf paladin.

[sinderborn]

If this was true I would race change so fast it would cause the internet whiplash.

Maybe we could just Moonlight as paladins?