To be perfectly honest if you had a choice of playing from level 1-90, enduring the Cataclysm Lore that made the Alliance look like wimps, getting ganked in every leveling zone in Wow by bored level 90's abusing the AH, waiting 30 mins for a dungeon que only to find out the Tank does not no what they are doing or leaves from constant abuse mid fight, Then after all that grief find out that there is about a million dailies at level 90 you must complete, and you have to do ALL those dungeons over again on Heroic before you can be carried by your friends as well as wait 45 minutes for 3 bags of Gold after 5 wipes in an LFR raid, OR
simply pay 25$ and skip the leveling/ganking process what would you do?
Yeah I thought so.
I thought this was just another free 90 with purchase thread then I read the part where they will be selling extra 90s...and people in the thread are still defending them. You really dont think this is a little too much...just a wee bit? Just cant admit it, can you?
I just cant wait until Blizz crosses the line full blown and starts selling gear and other things just to read how people will defend them then.
Someone please explain me why the hell it matters?
Why do you care about someone not having to level a character?
It's like people who complain that gear is to easy to get.
Also, using a fallacy to support your arguments is quite idiotic... and no, blizzard will not start selling gear.
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as far as i know (and i know very little) the lvl-90 shortcut is one of the "bigger" demands that the community has right now. i believe that there are a lot of discussions, between blizzard and wow-players, that say how boring and mindnumbing it has become to level a character to 90 and that it has become too big of a barrier for people who want to try different classes in endgame-content.
so.. they are listening to the community and now the other part of the community (the one that gets their news from the mad magazine or something :> ) is now acting like blizzard is commiting some kind of unholy act.
in the end, they are still not selling power for real life money, and thus they are still keeping their promise.
at least now people can choose between shady china-farmers and legit blizzard, if they are looking for a shortcut to lvl 90.
of course i am being too rational here so... LUIGI!!!
Yeah I couldn't read past the first page. I knew right away the OP would get made fun of and attacked hardcore because he dare criticizes the mighty Blizzard overlords. It's like someone said already, MMO-C don't take kindly to that kind of thinking. Not round these parts, tell ya whut.
This doesn't surprise me. They did so many things they said they'd never do. When paid transfers came in they said they'd never let people transfer from PVE to PVP which didn't last long before they did. They always said they'd never us make both factions on the same server, just as they said they wouldn't ever give out faction changes. We got all these things. I also remember when they said the Blizzard Store would be for mounts only. Then we got pets, then we got transmog gear, then Asia got buyable potions to increase experience gained, and now we're getting to buy level 90s. So yeah get prepared for the day you can buy 'catch up' gear or something similar. Sadly the community just laps it all up and accepts it.
Also take a look at the last few mounts they put on the Blizzard store and think of what they've put in game recently that didn't cost money. There's a pretty gigantic difference in quality. The bat addition was such an insult to many people too who had been begging Blizzard to put a bat mount in game for years. Then they do it and say it's for $$ only. Bleh
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If it's so bad that people are telling Blizzard they would pay to skip it, ideally Blizzard should be improving the experience so people don't feel like paying to skip it, or that there are rewards related to leveling alts that comes from reaching max level (Marvel Heroes, for example, has an account wide synergy system where you can get up to 200% permanent bonus experience from leveling additional characters, so it's definitely a doable system in games with leveling). Instead, and with a lot of unfortunate encouragement, they are simply going with the easy way out and saying "Okay, pay to skip it."
Then again, and I've not noticed anyone mentioning this, the consideration to sell level 90 boosts is really just a, in my opinion, knee-jerk response to people planning on using the 1 time boost in a round about way to gain multiple near-max level characters.
i suppose those boosted characters will have full set of gear once you start playing it, otherwise if the boosted characters are equipped with lvl 1 starting gear, the wow forums will be swarmed with complaints. so then it begins, let's say the player XXX gets a lvl 90 boost with included gear, then he/she levels to lvl 100 and then again demand Blizzard that they should have an item set to buy once they reach lvl 100 to get into the current content without having to run through old raids or dungeons, for example the current patch is 6.4 and the player XXX does not want to go through 6.1,6.2 and 6.3 , therefore they will most likely ask for an item set to buy once they reach lvl 100 to get into 6.4 content.
so my conclusion is: if they can skip leveling, why not purchasable gear to get instant access to 6.4? leveling is content and so are the patches/gear.
and i can assure that they will start selling gear sets in future.
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What amazes me most is that everybody is complaining about Blizzard "neglecting pre-max level content" and yet nobody ever complains that Blizzard wasted resources creating a new max level raid, but has never bothered coming out with a raid for level 70 or level 80. Stupid arguments are stupid.
As for your second argument, you use nothing to back up your statement. The reason Blizzard didn't do server merges (or whatever they want to call them) is because of the negative perception behind them. Also, they didn't want force people to randomly give up their names or guild names. This is probably the most effective way I've seen of merging servers. Since nobody else seems to have been able to do this, how do you know that Blizzard just didn't have the capability of doing it previously? You don't. So, while getting money for server transfers may be a reason, it may not be the only reason, and it also may not have been a reason at all. What other evidence tells you that Blizzard making more money is detrimental to the game itself? By all means, explain.
Not a huge fan of the choice, but frankly if you don't have toons at 90 this late in the expansion than you aren't really playing the game anyway.
For whatever reason that is, this change was aimed at you.
Its to help players who want 90s but don't have time / are too incompetent to level.
Unfortunately, the biggest contribution to the decline in subs isn't that people are leaving - its that people aren't joining as fast as they once were.
This change will hopefully remedy this, while proving extra income for the game as a whole.
More money seems fine to me, especially after coming off an expansion that has produced more content in each patch than the entirety of previous expansions. Not to mention the speed at which the content came out.
I see MoP and the changes within as the next step for WoW, and despite the notion that eventually everything might have a price tag, I can't argue as long as the raids and content with patches stay as quality as they have been these last 3 tiers.
With that said, please no more "Either be for it or be indifferent" comments.
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does the mounts on the store get you from point A to point B any faster than the ones obtained in game ?
do they help you kill bosses or the other faction quicker ???
do they help you do anything in game better than the mounts obtainable in game ???
the answer is no to all the above
Why don't they just put it down already, game is old and they are getting really desperate for money and it is making the game and the developers look bad.
In hindsight, WoW should have ended in wrath, when the game was the most hyped and played and we had all the celebrity advertisements and killed the biggest lore bad guy in all of warcraft.