View Poll Results: Paid 90 Character Levels: Support or Oppose?

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  1. #181
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    Seems like the community is now fine with P2W, how we have deteriorated.

  2. #182
    I choose oppose cuz its gonna kill leveling content and even endgame content with all the retards that dont know how to play their class but it seems the casuals are getting what they want again so... we better get prepared for this. And yes this is getting to become Pay To Win Mmo !!

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    I strongly oppose! I feel like leveling a character at the moment is an attempt to teach someone to play said character. Dropping that completely just means more of a mess when that person just skips that whole learning process. LFR and majority of heroic dungeons are terrible experiences for me and I certainly don't want to extend this for everyone else.

  4. #184
    For new people I would not recommend it but its super boring leveling nowadays after having done all the content to death. I would pay for all my characters to hit 90. Bads will always be bad, no matter how they level. 90 wont change a thing. Either way at 90 things are radically different. They should provide a proving grounds type thing when they ding you to 90 for the sake of learning your role at least. But either way I support. Also more character slots per server please. Purchased or not!

  5. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by sizzlinsauce View Post
    your sig says you unsubbed months ago. please leave if you don't want to play the game anymore.
    Which is exactly the problem with this place, malcontent's who have long since left popping up to say how terrible a service they'll never use is in a game they no longer play...
    "The fact that you don't get it or like it is fine. The fact that you wanna ruin it for everyone else - that's why you're a cocksucker." - Bill Hicks
    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    The playerbase has been desiring this for years and when it's finally here, everyone wants to grab a pitchfork. Ridiculous. This community is disgustingly toxic.
    Please send all PM's with a read receipt, that way both you and I will know I'm not reading them....

  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark-Zarupia View Post
    I choose oppose cuz its gonna kill leveling content and even endgame content with all the retards that dont know how to play their class but it seems the casuals are getting what they want again so... we better get prepared for this. And yes this is getting to become Pay To Win Mmo !!
    Sweet, more time travelers! Please tell us while we have you here, why have all the progression guilds and Flex puggers of the future decided to let the can't-play-because-of-insta-90 crowd into their runs with them?

  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Seems like the community is now fine with P2W, how we have deteriorated.
    I have 5 level 90's, now did I win 5 times or does only the first "win" count, I just want to know so I can use this new definition of the word properly.
    "The fact that you don't get it or like it is fine. The fact that you wanna ruin it for everyone else - that's why you're a cocksucker." - Bill Hicks
    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    The playerbase has been desiring this for years and when it's finally here, everyone wants to grab a pitchfork. Ridiculous. This community is disgustingly toxic.
    Please send all PM's with a read receipt, that way both you and I will know I'm not reading them....

  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Seems like the community is now fine with P2W, how we have deteriorated.
    If you think that a paid level 90' is even close to being P2W then you are in fact clueless to what P2W means.

    If being max level is winning then I've won 15 times. I'm pretty awesome.

  9. #189
    Support, I love leveling to experience the lore, the content and everything that is related to leveling but it gets boring really soon after that, the second alt may be just about okay but starting with the third, I get irritated and just want to hit max level. Love the idea, an extension towards Level 100 might be cool IF the leveling in WOD turns out to be just like MOP, too tedious in my honest opinion.

    That being said I find it stupid to claim that people won't know their class after buying their way up to level 90. You don't have to learn your class in order to reach maximum level already so there is no real different right there, right now.
    Last edited by Chrotesque; 2014-01-17 at 02:58 PM.

  10. #190
    Support. The only requirement for leveling is time and a pulse. Everyone reaches level 90, even the worst players in the game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipsed1234 View Post
    Oppose. I don't like buying power for real money in a game with a subscription model.
    How is having a level 90 character equal to "power"? Being level 90 is not power. It's not like you buy a level 90 character and suddenly you have power. The worst player in the world could buy a level 90 character, but he's still the worst player in the world. Nothing about buying a character to 90 indicates that the player himself becomes better/stronger/faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Seems like the community is now fine with P2W, how we have deteriorated.
    Explain how it is pay to win and not pay to catch up? Without using idiocy.
    “What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof.”

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  12. #192
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Seems like the community is now fine with P2W, how we have deteriorated.
    Considering leveling takes all of a couple days and has nothing to do with end game, gear, loot, or raiding, I don't see how it's "pay to win." That term gets thrown around a lot by people who don't even seem to understand what it means.

    Pay to Win would be buying Thunderforged equivalents of the highest raids. Being able to buy the best armor and weapons, etc.

    I prefer leveling myself, but if they're making it available with purchase of the expansion for 1 character, they've already identified a way to work around it, so a more direct option makes sense.

    I'd personally prefer to see a Paid 90 have a simple restriction of already having the class at 90.

    Faroth here is a level 90 NE hunter, but I would like to play and see some things from Horde side so allowing me to buy a level 90 Horde hunter would be convenient.
    But I don't have a level 90 warlock on either side, so not allowing me to have a paid 90 warlock would be okay with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangplank View Post
    Support. The only requirement for leveling is time and a pulse. Everyone reaches level 90, even the worst players in the game.



    How is having a level 90 character equal to "power"? Being level 90 is not power. It's not like you buy a level 90 character and suddenly you have power. The worst player in the world could buy a level 90 character, but he's still the worst player in the world. Nothing about buying a character to 90 indicates that the player himself becomes better/stronger/faster.
    Maybe they should take their insta-90 into Battlegrounds or Arena and prove how powerful they are and prove how WoW is pay to win?

    I'd also say raids, but ilvl won't let them in to begin with, I'm betting.
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    Support.

    You learn the game properly in the endgame with every spell available. For the most people, including me, questing/dungeons got really boring after the 5th toon, but that's just a personal feeling. I play for the endcontent, that's what I like about this game and this option just supports my way of trying different things out. Well as long the price is reasonable.

    I doubt it will affect the game for others that much because when WoD comes out you still have to do those 10 levels.

  14. #194
    This is such a great Idea. There are soo many people that want to try wow that have never played, or have played but dont want to go through the level grind. This has a good chance of solidly boosting wow subs and therefore having more people to play with. This is a good thing.

  15. #195
    People should realize the "allowing people to boost to level 90 will enable bad players" argument is without merit. Players will still have to level from 90 to 100, during which point they will have figure out fundamentals about their class. Plus, when you choose your specialization it tells you what abilities are key/essential. And finally, anyone who doesn't take a moment to read their abilities and figure out what they need/what's important won't do it at level 1-90 if they're not going to do it at level 90-100. Bad is bad folks, making the game easier for people to power up an alt is a great idea (especially when you get out of that age bracket when you can't affort to spend 4+ hours a night on wow... and some us like to go out and see movies and have dinners and socialize too - this option will make the game more accessible!).

    Also as far as pay to win... I like "paying" with time spent playing. I miss the badget farming sessions I used to have with friends at the end of WotLK, it provided incentive for people to run dungeons instead of "you may only run this 2x a day and then you're basically wasting your time... go do dailies" MOP style. Incentives to run 5 mans = shorter queue times. Could get gear and offspec gear (not a thing in WoD anymore, yay) and compete with friends to see who's epeen was bigger. Miss those day. T_T
    Last edited by ShadowyFanatic; 2014-01-17 at 02:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mooboy View Post
    I have 5 level 90's, now did I win 5 times or does only the first "win" count, I just want to know so I can use this new definition of the word properly.
    Well firstly you can stop focusing on 1 word and start understanding the meaning of the phrase. Pay to Win means your paying a premium for an advantage over other players. Leveling is the ultimate form of success in this game, you cant get anywhere without leveling, but even that assessment is irrelevant, because regardless of what I think about paying for leveling.

    You are still paying a premium to get an advantage over everyone else, you are paying to win. Too many people (whether they are english speaking natives or not) focus on the one word at the end of the phrase, instead of looking at the bigger picture.

    Edit: Succeeding in this game doesnt just boil down to HC raiding or PvP fights.

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    They have Deathknights and Monks for this sort of thing. As well as Scroll of Resurrection. I understand one toon per account, or maybe one toon per faction per account, but anything more then this takes away from the game. Took me forever to hit 70 in TBC and get my first epic ground mount. I road that for days on end!

  18. #198
    Assuming the cost is around $30 or so, I support it. The game doesn't start until max level, the leveling process is just one long obnoxious speed bump that I am all in favor of skipping after my first or second time through an expansion. Most of my MoP alts have leveled strictly through LFG because I just can't stomach the questing.

  19. #199
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Leveling is the ultimate form of success in this game
    No, raid gear is.

  20. #200
    I 100% support character upgrades! I would love it if they did away with the whole leveling system all together. I only have one level 90 for the pure fact that I don't want to spend my time leveling when I could be doing end game content with friends.
    Last edited by Kitty Claws; 2014-01-17 at 02:55 PM.

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