That graph accurately explains why I always exclude AV and IoC from que.
Also it's fun how alliance keeps acting like they NEVER win the other 9 bgs, they do, just a bit less often than horde
And also fun how Horde acts like they can't bl IOC/AV and be happy orcs raping alliance elsewhere.
I would like to remove Isle of Conquest from my Blacklist as a Horde player so I can get the meta and get the khan title, but it'll never happen.
Blizzard needs to ban bots, nerf the heck out of glaive damage severely or move docks flag
AV favored for allys, been for while and allys whine about horde starting spot.
Bl av/IoC is good idea if ya horde becease both bgs are broken been for while.
in the end, horde has the same right to complain about broken BGs as alliance does about racials. But to be honest, if even symetric BGs like kotmogu are dominated by horde by pretty big margin, its hardly only about racials.
Last edited by Sarevokcz; 2014-01-20 at 10:30 AM.
Why all horde players are complaining about AV? They have advantages in almost all other BG's but no, it's not enough ?
I'm playing for the Alliance and my win/lose ratio is about 90% of wins (and yes, I've banned all 40 ppl BG's because of long queues there, so it's not from AV or IoC). It's all about people you going with - how many bots on each side or how many not geared players there is. I guess, I'm lucky to see decent players in my team quite often.
I can't be bothered to go through all this butthurt here, is this data US only, or both US and EU?
pvp died for me about that time arenas were put in the game (bc)i mean befor that nobody needet recilence or pvp power. and i was there i got my knight titel with my hunter
Last edited by Igzorn; 2014-01-20 at 11:12 AM.
I strongly feel like alliance numbers are too high. Have not managed to get my first win of the day all week. Granted I only do about 5 bgs a day.
Absolutely no one with a clue is surprised about AV.
And apologists are essentially saying that it'd be balanced if one faction started doing proper teamwork in order to defend against the mindless zerg that win regardless.
The layout of AV doesn't support these 10 minute games. Horde towers, respawn, placement are all ideal for the Alliance.
Sad, considering I loved that BG before Blizzard did the third or fourth horde-specific nerf.
Tho I suppose no one even remembers that anymore.
It's just a matter of self-fullfilling prophecy. Horde joins AV or IoC and starts with the feeling of beeing destroyed in minutes. Alliance in many other BGs. No wonder when that happens. My Alliance Main played some 3k BGs and won some 2,2k. Of course as healer and mostly not in a group. I never understood why Alliance is complaing so much. If Horde would start to defend their stupid towers in AV or just ignore the workshop in IoC things would change. But no, they insist to play their strange tactics.
AB-H60% vs A40% (that is 10% in favor of horde to the mark of 50/50 that the ideal w/l should be for both factions),i dont know where u pull the 20% crap
WG-H47,4% vs A52,6 (that is a 2,6% in favor of Alliance) not that big deal (u called that 6% remember ideal w/l should be 50%-50% for both factons
EotS-A44,4% vs H 55,6% (5,4% in favor of Horde)
Strand-A31,7% vs H68,3% (18,3% in favor of Horde)
AV-A78,2% vs H21,8% ( 28,2% in favor of Alliance)
IoC-A84,9% vs H15,1% (34,9% in favor of Alliance)
Twin Peaks-A42,7% vs H57,3%(7,3% in favor to Horde)
BfG-A42,1% vs H57,9%( 7,9% in favor to horde)
ToK-A41,9% vs H58,1% (8,1% in favor to horde)
Silvershard mines-A35,5% vs H64,5% (14,5% in favor to horde)
Deepwind-A42,1% vs H57,9% (7,9% in favor to horde)
Now if you look at all statistics it is true that horde win ratio is better than alliance on most bgs,but u have to admit that the difference in w/l is not that great.I mean come on in 10 games played on many of those bgs alliance wins 4 and horde wins 6 (w/l <10%)
It's true that Strand 18,3% and silvershard 14,5% which favors the horde are a bit high and they should take a look at them(but its mostly player skill and such).
Now take a look at AV/IoC (28,2% and 34,9%).Don't you see something wrong there?
My point in all this is that most bgs that people say its horde dominated,the w/l ratio between both factions are <10% and are close to the 50/50.But IoC and AV w/l ratio is too overwhelming.
If i were to blame anyone i would probably blame the hk premades which are made especially by the russian servers.
Why does Strand favors Horde that much? Silvershard i can understand, that map is not balanced, but Strand?
Time is on our side
Brutal Gladiator Enhancement Shaman *rawr*
In order for Horde to win, they need to play a defensive game and therein lies the problem. Playing AV defensively means a match that lasts a good 10-15 minutes longer for Horde to win. Unfortunately, that leaves us with two problems... 1) the "OMG my honor-per-hour" crowd would rather lose AV quickly than play to win and 2) new players think that you have to "race to the boss" to win. With these two factors, many Horde who like to play to win end up blacklisting AV.
I know that Horde can win AV. I regularly run with an AV premade group... we play defensively and we win... even if we have only 15 people in the match, we win. We let the pugs push offensively while we back-cap and defend our base.
Speaking of which... in AV pugs, you seldom see Horde back-capping while Alliance regularly sends 5+ to recap their bunkers.
Yep... Horde has to play defensively to win AV.
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Horde does fine in AV if they play defensively. Horde does fine in IoC if they take docks/kill glaives.
**BUT** 99% of the time (ok about 80% of the time according to the graphs), Horde does neither so they lose.
I'm genuinely curious as to the reasoning why Horde win more overall games. With such a large sample size I don't think it's possible to be something like player skill.
My (granted) anecdotal evidence suggests that the same players that make up one faction are the same caliber of players that make up the other faction, especially now, 9 years into the game's life.
I will say this though, I've been PvPing the same spec/class combo (Feral Druid) for nearly 9 years now and I've always managed to win (approx. 56% winning percentage) more than I lose with the exception of current WoW, all done while solo queuing my way to "Battlemaster", "Justicar", "of the Alliance", and now I nearly have "Khan" done.
If u play in the Horde you must always have AV and IoC on the blacklist