So, tell me, what would happen if in America someone were to violently storm Congress? Ignore that the government won a non-confidence vote and thus had democracy on its side? What if the out-side world then demanded that the US back down to the rioters demands!?
Unidentified men break the door of the Kiev City State Administration (Kiev City Council) building during a rally held by supporters of EU integration in Kiev, December 1, 2013. (Reuters / Valentyn Ogirenko)
Participants in a rally in support of Ukraine's integration with the EU, in Kiev's city hall occupied by protesters on December 1, 2013. (RIA Novosti / Andrey Stenin)
Pro-European Ukrainian demonstrators spray tear gas on police members protecting the presidential adminstration office in Kiev as 100 000 outraged Ukrainians swarmed the city in a call for early elections meant to punish authorities for rejecting a historic EU pact, on December 1, 2013.( AFP Photo / Vasily Ma
Yes, that's a catapult...going medieval...
A protester sprays fire in the direction of the riot police during clashes in the centre of Kiev on January 20, 2014. (AFP Photo / Genya Savilov)
OP, you have a strange notion of 'peaceful protesters'...
this is not terrorism (google translate).
Also, lots of neo-nazi involved in fighting, and we all know that they love these kind of chaos
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You guys need to start voting on the major issues that are dividing your country. Get a grasp of what the opinions really are and then implement them, if the government stands in the way of this, then foreign powers such as Russia or the EU can get involved.
Also if people dont want to protest peacefully they deserve whats coming to them.
They havent managed to sort it out since forever anyway pretty much half the population always looked at themselves as either russians or europeans.
This is Svoboda, the Neo-Nazi group that is doing the fighting in Ukraine.
This is their leader, and picture below as well...
This is the USA position
Svoboda: The rise of Ukraine's ultra-nationalists http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20824693
note, article is from 2012 and so is not clouded by current events.
What is one-sided is where the violence comes from.
There you have it, stop being butt hurt cuz I exposed your "peaceful protesters"
Dead bodies are being found in forests near Kiev, tanks are on streets, people are being left to die in hospitals. Ye don't do shit about that. Rely on your "objective" BBC/CNN reports...
As for EU vs Russian course of development / integration, it is just being used as a reasoning for opposition to try and take over the government. Really neither European Union was going to accept Ukraine any time soon, nor RF was going to digest ukraine as a powerful nothern bear it is.
Police cruelty (and severe new laws that have been recently introduced, like 10 years for taking a part in a protest) are just a counter-reaction. The policemen guys who are standing there all day unarmed being thrown stones and molotov cocktails at, aren't getting any happier. If there should be tanks then so be it. I don't think I'm the only one who thinks this way.
None of the laws on protesting don't exist in the west... This is double standards, overlooked because EU is hungry to snatch Ukraine..
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So, you are denying that the violence is being done by Nazis? You have already admitted that they cause violence, yet you are doing "omg nazis? omg like in ze movies? I don't believe u!" In contrast to you, I read news, why don't you try it instead of shaking your head?
an ultra- nationalist party is playing a leading role and former symbols of the far-right fringe are moving into the political mainstream.
Flying above crowds in Kiev and other cities, the flags of Ukraine and the European Union mingle with red-and-black “blood and soil” nationalist banners.
Svoboda’s activists are now playing a major role in running Kiev’s main protest camp and buildings occupied by demonstrators. They were also prominent in resisting riot police who tried to storm the camp and in the highly symbolic toppling of a statue of Vladimir Lenin. Svoboda’s leader, former surgeon Oleh Tyahnybok, rouses protesters with firebrand rhetoric attacking the “anti-Ukrainian” forces running the country, and he has met visiting senior EU and US diplomats who would have shunned him in other circumstances.
The first thing that needs to happen is the insurrectionists need to be put down (yes, with lethal force). Until then, cries for change are futile.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him.