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  1. #221
    Quote Originally Posted by eadan4111 View Post
    i never cried about how hard it is to get it, i actually think its should be super hard and rare people get it, but a long gring that everyone have to do or else u are just too weak for the current content is a mistake
    if they made SoO attuned to not having the cape then it would have been a joke with it

    1 person is stronger cause of legendary but people are not excluded with out it, is fine
    1 person is weaker with out it and get excluded is not fine
    You want the cape to be super hard to obtain but you complain about having to do a bit of grinding to get one on an alt?

    The cape is ~5% of your DPS.

    SoO NM is not tuned to you having the cape.

    SoO HM is probably tuned to you having the cape IF this is your first week in SoO and you have no other SoO NM or HM pieces. Ie, if you're in Paragon or Method etc. Normal players entering SoO HM today have had months to gather gear and so are massively better geared than they were anyway so the cape is unlikely to be a barrier even then.

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    im 9/14 heroic....but good try, cant play my alts at the same level, thats a mistake
    He's completely correct, the cloak is like 5% of your DPS so someone without it can absolutely out-DPS you if they are simply better.

    There was another Rogue in my old HM guild that used to almost out-DPS me when I had the legendary DAGGERS and he didn't. He was that good. DAGGERS. They're WEAPONS.
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  2. #222
    Quote Originally Posted by Uchuchu View Post
    I swapped factions in late fall. I didn't want to transfer so I leveled up a character I already had sitting at 70. I dinged 90 on 11/19/2013 and I got my cloak on 1/22/2014. So yeah, two months. Two months of "work" for a legendary is nothing.
    can i raid without it like i could in the past?
    does the raid attuned to not having it?
    can i kill heroic bosses?

    the feeling of having to do it at max level to be competitive make me not wanna level an alt
    lets say u don't like your current main, and feel like leveling a new char and gearing it to be ready for SoO, would u? so many people wouldnt and its cause of the time consuming legendary

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    He's completely correct, the cloak is like 5% of your DPS so someone without it can absolutely out-DPS you if they are simply better.[/QUOTE]

    u are drinking some strong kool aid, cape + meta can be up to 130k DPS in some fights

  3. #223
    Quote Originally Posted by eadan4111 View Post
    lets say u don't like your current main, and feel like leveling a new char and gearing it to be ready for SoO, would u?
    Did you even read my post? I said that's exactly what I did. I didn't like what I was doing, so I basically rerolled. If you're decently skilled, most guilds will take you without the cloak as long as you explain the circumstances and they know you're actively working towards it.

  4. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by eadan4111 View Post
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    im 9/14 heroic....but good try, cant play my alts at the same level, thats a mistake
    No it's perfectly reasonable that your alt can't be as geared as your main. That's why it's an alt.

  5. #225
    Quote Originally Posted by Uchuchu View Post
    Did you even read my post? I said that's exactly what I did. I didn't like what I was doing, so I basically rerolled. If you're decently skilled, most guilds will take you without the cloak as long as you explain the circumstances and they know you're actively working towards it.
    so having 3 month grind to switch main is ok?
    it was never like that, i dont support the "catch up" system, but 3 month to switch main or gear an alt for current content is bad

  6. #226
    Quote Originally Posted by eadan4111 View Post
    so having 3 month grind to switch main is ok?
    Sounds like the real purpose of this thread is for you to bitch about making a mistake picking your main so now you're that guy that is gonna cry about having to reroll.

  7. #227
    Quote Originally Posted by eadan4111 View Post
    so having 3 month grind to switch main is ok?
    Funny how two months suddenly turns into three months.

    Two months is fine. Even three months would be fine. That's the price you pay when you reroll.

  8. #228
    Quote Originally Posted by Uchuchu View Post
    Funny how two months suddenly turns into three months.

    Two months is fine. Even three months would be fine. That's the price you pay when you reroll.
    tow month is being super lucky, it usually take 3, also its not fine, it was never like that.
    if i'm even thinking about leveling an alt now its for WoD or i should put tons of LFR hours to get it....this suck, i dont wanna do this i dont have the time for this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    Sounds like the real purpose of this thread is for you to bitch about making a mistake picking your main so now you're that guy that is gonna cry about having to reroll.
    my main is a warrior, and i love it, never gonna change main

  9. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by eadan4111 View Post
    tow month is being super lucky, it usually take 3, also its not fine, it was never like that.
    if i'm even thinking about leveling an alt now its for WoD or i should put tons of LFR hours to get it....this suck, i dont wanna do this i dont have the time for this

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    my main is a warrior, and i love it, never gonna change main
    Then why do you bring up some hypothetical statement "but what if you don't like your main"? Fishing for sympathy? It's always gonna be the same answer if you want the legenedary. You need to get it again on your alt or reroll.

  10. #230
    You do realise your alt can fight Ordos and get a set of warforged gear without the cape, since your main has one (it unlocks Ordos for your entire account), right?

  11. #231
    Quote Originally Posted by eadan4111 View Post
    tow month is being super lucky, it usually take 3, also its not fine, it was never like that.
    if i'm even thinking about leveling an alt now its for WoD or i should put tons of LFR hours to get it....this suck, i dont wanna do this i dont have the time for this
    It was never like that? It was never like what? When I got my cloak the first time around it took pretty close to a year because of halted progression until Blizz released the next part of the quest line.

    No one is forcing you to get a legendary cloak. Don't want to do it? Then don't.

  12. #232
    Quote Originally Posted by eadan4111 View Post
    u are drinking some strong kool aid, cape + meta can be up to 130k DPS in some fights
    Not sure where you get 130k DPS from, but just looking at Heroic parses on warcraftlogs.com, the average amount of DPS gained from both the cloak and the meta is less than 10%. Just an example and looking at the top warrior (Glennani from Pure (Turalyon-EU)) on Heroic Protectors:
    Total damage done: 179,067,851.

    Damage from Flurry of Xuen (legendary cloak proc): 8,604,684.
    Simple math puts the cloak at 4.805264569797065% of his total damage.

    Damage from Lightning Strike (meta proc): 1,655,048
    More math puts the meta at 0.9242574760111462% of his total damage.

    Combined they only made up 5.7% of his total damage done.
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  13. #233
    Quote Originally Posted by Junkdepot View Post
    Sounds like your guild is being exclusionary about something that isn't necessary.
    It's not necessary in the same sense that pants aren't necessary. The raid bosses are tuned to a difficulty that gives a desired completion % assuming the raiders have the cloak. If the raiders don't have the cloak, the tuning is harder than intended.
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  14. #234
    I agree that the legendary chain is complete nonsense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junkdepot View Post
    Not sure where you get 130k DPS from, but just looking at Heroic parses on warcraftlogs.com, the average amount of DPS gained from both the cloak and the meta is less than 10%. Just an example and looking at the top warrior (Glennani from Pure (Turalyon-EU)) on Heroic Protectors:
    Total damage done: 179,067,851.
    The meta is a huge deal for healers but so-so for geared DPS.

  16. #236
    Quote Originally Posted by Farora View Post
    Coming soon in the Blizzard shop near you...
    Farora just won the thread.

  17. #237
    Quote Originally Posted by Judge Malthred View Post
    My first thought is that you are complaining about getting a legendary item on an alt.

    Having the cape isn't be-all end-all. I started this expo up just pre SoO, I got the cape on my Main, that's enough. Why do your alts _have_ to have it? You make it sound like they are unplayable without it.
    lol that's what I'm saying, "god I have to get this legendary on an ALT? GAWD BLIZZ Y U SO BAD."

  18. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by Uchuchu View Post
    It was never like that? It was never like what? When I got my cloak the first time around it took pretty close to a year because of halted progression until Blizz released the next part of the quest line.

    No one is forcing you to get a legendary cloak. Don't want to do it? Then don't.
    it was never like that with other legendary, 1 item that destroyed my alt runs
    get 10 people with out cape and go run SoO...good luck

  19. #239
    Quote Originally Posted by eadan4111 View Post
    so having 3 month grind to switch main is ok?
    You don't have to grind for 3 months to switch mains -_-

    Nothing is stopping you from raiding without the cloak.
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  20. #240
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