This legendary is a freaking nightmare

[Mang]

I gave up getting it on alts. perhaps a shortcut should be added for players who have it already? Either way I doubt I'll get another one

[Ealyssa]

it a 15% boost, yes it is realistic

Actually no, it's not. One person missing one cloak won't block your progression.
Or maybe in a R10 shity group where the only good dps lack the legendary. But in fact this group have more serious problems to solve.

legendary quest:
1. sigil - 1 week
2. valor - 3 weeks
3. secrets - 2 weeks (if u do all and u are lucky)
4. runes - 2 weeks

How is that long exactly ? It's nearly half what people had to grind during non nerfed legendary quest.
You could not do sigils in one week at launch (actually one of my alts had 14 weeks to finish it, talk about luck...)
Valor was 6 weeks
secrets + rune, same as sigil. With two times more bosses to drop them that's fast enough.

What do you expect exactly ? Free Legendary at 90 ? The quest is easy enough. It now just ask for a bit a dedication which is fine if you really want to play an alt (And I'm saying this with 4 cloak done and two more on the way).

[Deleted]

Just work it out.

Is your dislike of being 15% weaker (as a mid-level raider) stronger than your dislike of grinding for the legendary?

Remember to factor in you will probably be raiding anyway, and capping valor each week. So the only things you will have to go out of your way to do will be the scenarios, rep grind (which only takes a few hours) and killing that party quest elite.

A lot of people describing (or complaining about) the "grind" for this legendary. 2/3 hours of mob killing in a group + a couple of scenarios and an elite party quest mob is not "grinding". Not in the sense I'd use the word anyway. It all probably adds up to 5 hours work (outside of your normal raiding and valor capping, which I think it's fair to assume you're doing if you're worried about having the cape in the first place). I would be hard pressed to describe that as a mild inconvenience, definitely not a grind.

[Windborne Sword]

It took me 2 months to get it on my alt. Do I do heroic raids on my alt though? No, cause its freaking progression and alts aren't allowed.

[eudamonia]

nightmare for an alt? Think about those who came back post 5.4 ugh

Yeah I admit I was bummed to hear I wouldn't be doing an heroic raiding this tier. I'm now enjoying playing through all of the MoP content at a relaxed pace.

[Vvulf]

I wish it only took me a mere two months to get Dragonwrath.

That's not his point ... (at least I don't think it was).

Did you get Dragonwrath on your alts too? He's talking about alts. Also, NOT having Dragonwrath didn't exclude casters from raiding, but NOT having a cloak pretty much means you'll never raid heroics on that toon.

I honestly believe MoP would have been a better expansion with NO legendary than what we got.

[TJ]

I think the same, I think about gearing my Paladin sometimes because I enjoy it, but the legendary is mandatory to do competitive dps so I don't bother.

[Biged781]

Are you really complaining that a legendary takes too long too get? How long would you have been waiting for it on this alt if this weren't a welfare piece?

[Deleted]

ofc its needed for hc and anyone attempted hc should have it already.

[purebalance]

Uhhh, it's the cape. And the mete gem that gives 30% haste. as a warlock in 535 ilvl I do significantly less dps than a warlock with the mete gem and the cloak. It is a huge boost. And a pain in the ass to get for alts.

For destro the meta gem is only really about 100dps difference from the normal meta you can make depending on your haste due to backdraft etc.

[threads]

[Trade]: LFM SoO first boss hc rest normal. req: 555ilvl and legend cloak!!


^ so common on my realm

This is pretty much why I don't play any alts anymore besides extra mount run lockouts. Sucks.

[purebalance]

Actually no, it's not. One person missing one cloak won't block your progression.
Or maybe in a R10 shity group where the only good dps lack the legendary. But in fact this group have more serious problems to solve.


How is that long exactly ? It's nearly half what people had to grind during non nerfed legendary quest.
You could not do sigils in one week at launch (actually one of my alts had 14 weeks to finish it, talk about luck...)
Valor was 6 weeks
secrets + rune, same as sigil. With two times more bosses to drop them that's fast enough.

What do you expect exactly ? Free Legendary at 90 ? The quest is easy enough. It now just ask for a bit a dedication which is fine if you really want to play an alt (And I'm saying this with 4 cloak done and two more on the way).

lol people need to stop saying about how awful it was with the 6k valor quest. You had the 6k valor and then..... nothing. Current people starting the quest have the whole haul ahead of them. Your carrot was given to you that mattered at the time at the end of the 6k valor grind quest line(not that quest but the line). The item you got at the end of that is now useless to most people doing the quests.

[Dakara]

Alts don't need the Legendary.

If you're main changing and/or trying to get into a decent raiding guild this late in the game, then yea, it sucks, but that's to be expected. Working on 2 alts the moment, if they get the Cloak then cool, if not, who cares.

I really liked the concept of a Legendary for everyone, spanning the length of the expansion, but unfortunately, being so easily obtainable also made it a requirement for raiding guilds which blocks late comers/re rollers at the door. But what else is new?

[hakujinbakasama]

Alts don't need the Legendary.

If you're main changing and/or trying to get into a decent raiding guild this late in the game, then yea, it sucks, but that's to be expected. Working on 2 alts the moment, if they get the Cloak then cool, if not, who cares.

I really liked the concept of a Legendary for everyone, spanning the length of the expansion, but unfortunately, being so easily obtainable also made it a requirement for raiding guilds which blocks late comers/re rollers at the door. But what else is new?

I really love this post because it makes me feel like I'm reading a Blizzard post.

The biggest fucking problem in this game is that while something may not be numerically "required" it sure as fuck ends up being "socially" required. Blizzard often focuses on the former 99% of the time. It's what caused this game to become a fucking taint bucket.

[Femininity]

Blizzard introduced Flex as the way to jump from LFR to Normal, yet they still allow such a huge difference between Flex and Normal simply because anyone without a legendary cloak isn't doing enough DPS to get through normal modes.

And that's what's wrong with the legendary cloak. I don't give a damn if everyone has a chance to get it, but at least make it semi-uncommon so not everyone and their mother is expected to have it.

Nonono. You're wrong. Only two of our main raiders had their cape the week 5.4 came out. Another 3 over the next three weeks. Literally half of our raid group hit level 90 a week or two before 5.4. Reason being, most of us had taken a break for months/years or gone casual, our raid average item level when we cleared SoO normals (with -5- legendary capes in the raid) was 525 and some change. This is mostly due to the fact that we cleared normals with 2 healers still wearing blue gear, a tank who hit level 90 the day before the patch dropped, and two dps still in the 500 range (one being an ALT of mine, my paladin got the cape day 1).

We were 8/14H before our resto druid got his cape two days later, the last of us who didn't have it. So no, the cape is an artificial 'necessity,' not having it on one (let alone five) members of your raid group isn't going to keep you from clearing normals.

[Strydr0]

Most players wont even be geared for much more than opening normal by the time they get the cloak. It gives you time to gear up and you should be ready for normals when you get it. Its like a time gap to learn your class.

[Ziwe the Monk]

You want MORE spoon fed content, OP?

[Deleted]

I'm in the struggle of the Valor, I can't get myself to farm 1k of valor each week :/

then its not an alt... an alt only has to collect ~ 666vp to get 1k vp per week....

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No, it's not the fact that it is easy, it's the fact that everyone who wants an alt "Has" to have it. I have the cloak on my main, but fuck leveling an alt and trying to get it. I really wanna run all of the old raids with a 511 ilvl

If you run around on ilevel 511 u dont play your alt - on timeless island you can get at least 496 gear wich gets you into soo wich gives you 528 gear...


if you dont wanna work for the legendary again - dont but dont bitch about it ....
otherwise man up...

[Restors]

Also dont forget that the bosses in SoO are tuned for people having the legendary, lets see a raid of 10 people with no legendary kill heroic bosses

wrong... I remember a blue post stated SoO is tuned without legendary cloak in mind, that thoose who wears them during progression gets extra bonus.

[apollo2kappa]

It is a LEGENDARY item. Wouldn't be much of a legendary if you could grab it on any alt that just hit 90 before this weeks raid time.

You also do not need the legendary to raid. Anyone who requires you to have it is needlessly restricting their own recruiting pool, and it's also an issue to take up with them, not with Blizzard.

Not having the cloak is not crippling anyones DPS. A 550 ilevel player with the cloak and a 550 without are going to do comparable numbers most of the time unless there is significant AoE, and anyone turning players away because of their slightly lowered throughput during AoE is doing it wrong.

It's staggering how quickly people are demanding to have easier, faster access to a freaking legendary on all their toons. No one is entitled to a legendary, and certainly no one is entitled to one within hours of reaching max level. This legendary is already extremely easy to get, the only barrier to getting it is time.

The alternative is extensive time and skill and effort (Ulduar, ICC, Firelands, Dragon Soul legendaries) or just blind, stupid luck (War Glaives, Thori'dal, etc.) Those legendaries are "freaking nightmares" as the original poster put it.

It's a freaking legendary.