Great Job!

[Deleted]

I'm sure you'd keep the same attitude if you had ever been convicted falsely.

[Felya]

Is Orlong supporting government subsidized flags for inmates?

[Deleted]

is what he did even legal? are they allowed to just make up their own rules like that? and enact their own forms of punishment?

Legal - probably not. Do-able ; sure. Who is gonna stop him, really.

[Felya]

I'm sure you'd keep the same attitude if you had ever been convicted falsely.

Or... If instead of a flag, the amount it cost was going to social programs...

[MerinPally]

Why are you proud of this?

Such a stupid as fuck reason to do this to them. It's a damn flag, stop getting so hung up on it. It's silly.

[Veyne]

Joe Arpaio is one of the worst pieces of shit to be given an ounce of power.

[Felya]

Why are you proud of this?

Such a stupid as fuck reason to do this to them. It's a damn flag, stop getting so hung up on it. It's silly.

Judging from his previous posts, he really should be pissed that government is stealing his money to buy flags for inmates.

[Noomz]

Great Job Sheriff Joe! If only every person in charge of prisons in the US would take after this guy, Id be so happy! He knows how to properly punish criminals! Criminals in jail are the scum of society and need to be treated as such instead of being put in a place where they can relax and live the good life. Here is another great example of his work:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arizona-...-ruining-flag/

Oh it's you again... Well, I'll indulge you.

If more people in charge of prisons did what he did, people would be much more likely to not commit crimes as they would be scared to go back to jail instead of seeing it as a place to go for a free room, food, and play games all day. Prison isnt supposed to be fun or carefree. If the prisoners dont like it, then like Sheriff Joe says "Dont come back"

If you expect criminals to care about a country that has probably treated them like shit since birth, you're wrong.
American flagworship is astounding and cult-like.

No, more people would be a lot more likely to never stop makign crimes and you'd be making hard-time, tough criminals out of rookies and freshbloods.

A hard hand creates a hard person. They became what they are because life gave them nothing but a hard, cold hand to the face.

Prison is never fun or carefree. If you think that's how it is, you should go there and enjoy it.

[Cthulhu 2020]

The American prison system is built around the idea of retribution, vengeance, and revenge.

If your goal is to make the guy who did you wrong as miserable as possible, sure, the harsh American prison system accomplishes this goal. You get to see scumbags rot in jail and feel safe knowing the person who wronged you is behind bars. Meanwhile, every other scumbag out there is just waiting to do the same thing to you.

See, when it comes to rehabilitation, the harsh American system has been shown time and again to be terribly ineffective. Harsh conditions just harden them, and makes them want to not get caught. Let me emphasize this. It doesn't make them not want to commit crime, it just incentivizes them to not get caught. You give them 10 years hard time and then release them then what? You've basically punished them into oblivion, they have no future as an honest citizen because their prison sentence is going to make sure of that. What are they going to do? Go right back to a criminal life, many times having learned some tricks while rooming with other criminals.

When we put pot users in for 25 years with hardened criminals, we even dehabilitate people. Some average joe gets caught using pot and is stuck with murderers and arsonists. Yes, this actually happens in the prison system. America's prison system has one of the lowest rates of rehabilitation in the world. Meanwhile countries like Norway, which not only gives lighter sentences but actually seeks to rehabilitate criminals and put them back into the work force, sees one of the highest rates of rehabilitation and one of the lowest rates of reoccurrence of crime.

http://content.time.com/time/magazin...986002,00.html

20% of criminals in Norway end up back in jail at a later time, where in the US and UK, that number is between 50% and 60%. When you actually care about reducing crime rather than vengeance, rehabilitation and reinjecting them as working members of society has a much higher success rate than fuck them over for 10 years then throw them out on their ass to find their own way.

Let's stop pretending that treating people harshly reduces crime, because the data shows significantly otherwise. Harsh punishment in our prison system is really just to satisfy people's need to punish those who have done them wrong. Being satisfied that they'll only ever work minimum wage should be enough, stop feeling good that you turned someone into a career criminal.

[Darsithis]

Criminals in jail are the scum of society and need to be treated as such instead of being put in a place where they can relax and live the good life.

I wonder what happens the day you're falsely accused of something and end up in jail for a few nights. The generalizations you put out sicken me.

If more people in charge of prisons did what he did, people would be much more likely to not commit crimes as they would be scared to go back to jail instead of seeing it as a place to go for a free room, food, and play games all day. Prison isnt supposed to be fun or carefree. If the prisoners dont like it, then like Sheriff Joe says "Dont come back"

You also clearly know jack shit about prison.

[Noomz]

Ahahha the irony...

Step 1: State takes away freedom from individual

Step 2: State places a symbol of freedom and state's power in individual's cell

Step 3: Individual destroys symbol of state and freedom

Step 4: State takes away more freedom from the individual, because the individual's act is insulting to 'freedom'

Step 5: State then somehow expects abused, violated, oppressed, hated people to LIKE the state that did this to them.

Step 6: Everyone starts taking out all the hate and rage bottled up inside them against the state that doesn't want them, because why should they care? No-one else does.

[Kujako]

The American prison system is built around the idea of retribution, vengeance, and revenge.

No, it's based on being isolated with only a small view of the sky so the light of god can absolve you of your sins. The idea was the after a few years like this, prisoners would become penitent, thus "penitentiary". Never been known to work however, but when has that stopped us?

[Cthulhu 2020]

You also clearly know jack shit about everything.

Fixed that to fit with Orlong's history of posting.

[MerinPally]

Judging from his previous posts, he really should be pissed that government is stealing his money to buy flags for inmates.

He earned his money, why should he have to give any to the government? Giving welfare to anyone is wrong, especially the government.

Seriously though what is this flag stuff about. Be patriotic fine, have a symbol fine. But if you get a Union Jack and piss on it, I'm not gona get angry. Know why? Because you've now got a piss soaked rag to deal with.

Besides, how patriotic is your American flag that was created on cotton grown in China/India and then coloured with ink made in India/China/Pakistan and then assembled and printed in China/Taiwan and then flown over by a freight company which probably isn't even American and then sold in a shop probably not run by an American? SO PATRIOTIC LONG LIVE UNCLE SAM.

[Cthulhu 2020]

No, it's based on being isolated with only a small view of the sky so the light of god can absolve you of your sins. The idea was the after a few years like this, prisoners would become penitent, thus "penitentiary". Never been known to work however, but when has that stopped us?

Whatever the individual feels like the American prison system seeks to do, it doesn't work.

[Noomz]

The American prison system is built around the idea of retribution, vengeance, and revenge.

If your goal is to make the guy who did you wrong as miserable as possible, sure, the harsh American prison system accomplishes this goal. You get to see scumbags rot in jail and feel safe knowing the person who wronged you is behind bars. Meanwhile, every other scumbag out there is just waiting to do the same thing to you.

See, when it comes to rehabilitation, the harsh American system has been shown time and again to be terribly ineffective. Harsh conditions just harden them, and makes them want to not get caught. Let me emphasize this. It doesn't make them not want to commit crime, it just incentivizes them to not get caught. You give them 10 years hard time and then release them then what? You've basically punished them into oblivion, they have no future as an honest citizen because their prison sentence is going to make sure of that. What are they going to do? Go right back to a criminal life, many times having learned some tricks while rooming with other criminals.

When we put pot users in for 25 years with hardened criminals, we even dehabilitate people. Some average joe gets caught using pot and is stuck with murderers and arsonists. Yes, this actually happens in the prison system. America's prison system has one of the lowest rates of rehabilitation in the world. Meanwhile countries like Norway, which not only gives lighter sentences but actually seeks to rehabilitate criminals and put them back into the work force, sees one of the highest rates of rehabilitation and one of the lowest rates of reoccurrence of crime.

http://content.time.com/time/magazin...986002,00.html

20% of criminals in Norway end up back in jail at a later time, where in the US and UK, that number is between 50% and 60%. When you actually care about reducing crime rather than vengeance, rehabilitation and reinjecting them as working members of society has a much higher success rate than fuck them over for 10 years then throw them out on their ass to find their own way.

Let's stop pretending that treating people harshly reduces crime, because the data shows significantly otherwise. Harsh punishment in our prison system is really just to satisfy people's need to punish those who have done them wrong. Being satisfied that they'll only ever work minimum wage should be enough, stop feeling good that you turned someone into a career criminal.

Eeeexactly!
The law is meant to be above emotion. I can imagine the rage and hate towards someone who has done you something terrible. Those people deserve to stay in jail.
But it doesn't stop there. Even the smallest, most insignificant criminal ends up being literally trained inside the prisons.

What's even worse is that nothing is done to prevent the source of criminality: poverty and inequality.
Fix that, and you'll remove a lot of crime.

[Orlong]

Not even convicted either.

This "Sheriff Joe" is just brutalizing inmates for the fun of it.

Yes, the people in this prison are convicted. They arent people awaiting trial

[Noomz]

Perhaps they wouldnt be there if they hadnt chosen to be a criminal. Look, he was elected 6 consecutive times. This means people like him and what he has done for Arizona

Perhaps they wouldn't have become criminals to begin with if their shitty lives didn't lead them to it, in a world that doesnt' give a shit about them and a society that hates them from their child years and probably with families that don't give two shits about them.

Have you ever met a criminal of any sort? Have you ever talked to one? Or do you just judge and hate mindlessly?
Many of them are people, down on their luck with nowhere else to go but down. Why should they care about others, when no-one cares about them?

[Deleted]

Yes, the people in this prison are convicted. They arent people awaiting trial

Which means jack shit.

A person doesn't lose basic human rights when they've committed crimes, even if your warped mind can justify it.

[MerinPally]

Yes, the people in this prison are convicted. They arent people awaiting trial

Oh that's ok then, there's nothing that makes societal outcasts reform than excluding them further. I also heard that they take it as a compliment if you put a gun in their hand and repeatedly slap them round the face with your penis.