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  1. #301
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul360 View Post
    quick question which has been bothering me. with all the speculation about the release date. why during summer? people go on holidays and generally go out and about enjoying the weather. so why release an expansion during this period?
    Because they have no choice. Its a far bigger disaster to purposely delay it to avoid summer. Subs will be dropping like flies, and subs they won't get back. People leaving for summer vacation would be highly likely to return.

  2. #302
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul360 View Post
    hmmm true, but surely with a game like wow, soon as an expansion is released people just want to jump in and play and usually remained logged in exploring new content for a large amounts of time. Then there's the issue with laptops and fps, then latency issues while on vacation creating a poor gameplay experience. Summer, vacation + expansion release doesn't make sense to me. The only useful thing coming out of a summer release is that people will be on holiday and by the time they get back; any bugs, server stability problems will have been addressed.
    Well, a lot of people who play are also kids and young adults. They'll be out of school on summer vacation, and back from college. I don't have very many friends anymore (19 this July, still in contact with maybe 5 or 6 people from my graduating class, and a few others who are older or friends of my girlfriend, whom graduates this June), but it'll be the same as it always has been for me, with the priority being "Girlfriend > friends > WoW." Lucky for me, she plays WoW too, but a lot more people will be playing it over the summer than you'd think.

  3. #303
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Except those release dates were never released by Blizzard. Blizzard's stance in the past was that games would not be released until they were ready, and as far as I know that hasn't changed.
    Internally they'd have release dates. Its essentially a message to employees "you better get done by X day." Open ended "it doesn't matter when you're done" isn't the most efficient thing to do. Yes they may not be hard set release dates in case of a disaster, but by now they know when its gonna be released or at least within a very small range.

  4. #304
    to me its just like the content patches, i remember when TOT came out about this time last year, i think it was around February wasnt it? couldn't wait to play it, then i played it, for a few months, cleared it, farmed it, got really bored, so i ended up taking a long vacation from wow, I'd only log in once in awhile, pretty much from April through September when 5.4 came out, and then it was awesome again, 5.4 yay! and then now...4 months later...taking another break from wow cuz so bored with little to do

    so i very much hope WOD comes out in june ish, because right now there isn't much else to do in wow, farm mounts/pets/achievements, get a 3rd/4th alt through SOO/Flex, or get a 3rd toon's legendary cape...feels worthless now when wod is "close" if its coming in June...

    Also i think we will see wod sooner than we think, because they said they were going to do pre-orders for wod, and when they do that you can get your free 90 so you can have a "few months" to play on your new toon, and even get your legendary cape done in time...cape takes ~2 months ish to complete, so if that was a legitimate goal....

    Also look at Reaper of Souls pre-order, it comes out in march, didnt the pre-sale start in january? thats ~4 months prior to release? so if sometime in February they announce pre-order of wod, even though yes its a different game title going by ROS pre-sale timeline, that puts wod at about end of june ish? (4 months....) and if wod beta comes out this month, they'd have a 4 month beta, that's plenty long enough, there isn't huge things they need to test like mop (new class/race, entire new continent etc)

    WOD areas are sorta re-vamped outland areas, yes they look almost completely different...but they already had the theme/ideas/visuals rolling from previous content, with MOP they started everything from scratch, unique models, doo-dads, enviroments, everything, and story....WOD is already rich in story/ideas/models and theme, they just have to tailor it and mold it to fit the expansion, where as MOP they had to do everything from ground up...wod's ground work was/is already done in comparison

    so to me its pretty much going to be june for WOD...but this is blizzard, they love to mess with our heads and "its done when its done"...either way I'm excited and ready!

  5. #305
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul360 View Post
    hmmm true, but surely with a game like wow, soon as an expansion is released people just want to jump in and play and usually remained logged in exploring new content for a large amounts of time. Then there's the issue with laptops and fps, then latency issues while on vacation creating a poor gameplay experience. Summer, vacation + expansion release doesn't make sense to me. The only useful thing coming out of a summer release is that people will be on holiday and by the time they get back; any bugs, server stability problems will have been addressed.
    My laptop sits at about 60fps on high-ultra settings and it only ran me about 1200, laptops are fine. Plus who the hell goes on vacation for months at a time? I guarantee you that the season of release does not in any way effect the average WoW player. It could be Carnival and you wouldn't see a dub drop because of it. MMO's are the kinds of game that are going to be played no matter the time of year.

    Vacation means more time to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazzorx View Post
    Internally they'd have release dates. Its essentially a message to employees "you better get done by X day." Open ended "it doesn't matter when you're done" isn't the most efficient thing to do. Yes they may not be hard set release dates in case of a disaster, but by now they know when its gonna be released or at least within a very small range.
    i'd say within two weeks, pure assumption of course. and forgoing strange happenstance disasters in coding /animations.

    to the OP, again...really....
    i'll just go with the flow and say "i want to believe"
    (might be careful, i'd be willing to bet a company that is trying to stress secrecy might 'reveal' some mis-information just to narrow down where leaks are coming from.)
    of course being info from your friend who's brothes- wifes- father works for activision blizzard might be far enough down the chain not to be able to pinpoint the source.
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  7. #307
    Quote Originally Posted by Christan View Post
    i'd say within two weeks, pure assumption of course. and forgoing strange happenstance disasters in coding /animations.

    to the OP, again...really....
    i'll just go with the flow and say "i want to believe"
    (might be careful, i'd be willing to bet a company that is trying to stress secrecy might 'reveal' some mis-information just to narrow down where leaks are coming from.)
    of course being info from your friend who's brothes- wifes- father works for activision blizzard might be far enough down the chain not to be able to pinpoint the source.
    Ya, I ofc don't know that for sure, but certainly they must have some internal "you better get it done in between this small range", that's just what companies do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorlax View Post
    Not really. Besides you mean to tell me that people can't play a game and go on vacation? I play on a laptop which I would take with me even if I went to the beach, I mean even if I did do that I'm not gonna be out and about all day and night.
    I do the same thing when going on vacation I take my laptop with me so I can log on and play. I just don't raid on vacation because I don't play as much. Heck, with every other expansion I have purposely taken vacation time so I could play as much as I wanted to at launch. Even have had a couple parties for launches. I am already planning a WoD party this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krazzorx View Post
    Ya, I ofc don't know that for sure, but certainly they must have some internal "you better get it done in between this small range", that's just what companies do.
    ohh i was agreeing with you.
    Still I cry, tears like pouring rain, Innocent is my lurid pain.

  10. #310
    new poster from EU with leaked info, seen it happen before

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    The best lies contain a grain of truth. Better to take this with a grain of salt.

    As to why June makes sense. Sure Summer time is traditionally bad for video game sales. However the timing makes sense. You're looking at the end of the 2nd quarter, which would be padded by the release. Third Quarter will be strong as the remainder of sales, and subs coming back as summer winds down and autumn begins.

  12. #312
    Quote Originally Posted by Condemner View Post
    "Photoshops are done"..... really...... that's hilarious
    It's plausible that they make the concept art in Photoshop you know.

    Either way, at least this gives something to look at for upcoming months when it comes to WoW.
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  13. #313
    Quote Originally Posted by Facerockker View Post
    Are you... serious? Do you know how much content they had at Blizzcon 2013?

    Anyway... Threads like this are typically silly and generally garner more attention than deserved.
    They had lots of content about WoW and D3 but apart from that? One short panel about HotS, some things about Hearthstone but nothing new and surprising and nothing about SC2 I can remember of. At the moment Blizzard has 3 big games and people expected to get lots of info about all 3 of them. Also there wasn't that much in-depth information about the games they showed like in the past. Maybe it would've been better if they focused more on just WoD on Blizzcon instead of splitting the time between RoS because the way they did it, it felt like we didn't get that much information. There's still a lot of speculation about the things they showed and they needed to release some blogs to clarify what they meant. With RoS beta already out people can gather the infos they want but with WoD it's different.

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    Warcraft IV is not planned
    such news...! We wont see wc4 for a very long time.
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    Um just one question what the hell does Informations mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richiecqc View Post
    Um just one question what the hell does Informations mean?
    I guess the op's native tounge is not english. its a common mistake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheedi View Post
    - Hearthstone release date: 15 april Probably True
    - Warlords of Draenor release date: 24 june Probably True
    - Heroes of the Storm wont be released this year Probably True
    - The Dark Below is still the name of the project name Titan (99% False) and the team grew 50%
    - The Warlords of Draenor Cinematic Trailer is 70 % finished. It will be released 2 months before the release Probably True
    - The Cinematic Team is also working on the SC2 LotV Cinematic Trailer. The plan is that it will be shown at BlizzCon 2014 Probably True
    - The first Warcraft Movie Trailer will be shown a half year before the release, NOT at BlizzCon 2014 Probably True; it's Hollywood after all
    - Informations about The Dark Below wont be revealed at BlizzCon 2014 99% True because it isn't called that. 100% True if you're talking about the project once leaked as 'Titan'.
    - The Team is thinking about to cancel BlizzCon 2014 Probably True - it's a heavy release year
    - A new game is in development 100% True (we knew this a long time ago, ever since listings for 'Unnamed Project' came up)
    - Warcraft IV is not planned 100% True - "Team 1" (which does RTSes) is already working on two games at once (which is very abnormal for Blizzard) and people think they'd start WC4 and divide the team's time even more?
    - The StarCraft Team are thinking about StarCraft: Ghosts
    - Two new Diablo III expansions are in development Probably False unless you're including RoS as one of those expansions
    - Two new World of Warcraft expansions are in development Well, kind of. They plan 2 expansions out at all times, so yes, I guess.
    - A Hearthstone expansion is in development. It wont be a Diablo or StarCraft edition Probably True
    - The Team wants to launch expansions faster but it is still a problem because there arent enough good developers who applied at Blizzard Entertainment Probably True
    - Soon you will get more informations about the new character models. 50% of them are done right now.
    - New models for worgen and goblins are planned with the 6th expansion. Photoshops of them are already done but it takes a long time to get them into life
    - The Diablo III Team didnt grow. (100% False; you have no idea) 40% of the StarCraft Team are now in the HotS Team thats why LotV takes a long time (False/True simultaneously - you don't know what's going on properly. There are no two separate teams for SC2 and Heroes (so that part is false); that's the problem. "Team 1" is doing SC2 and Heroes simultaneously now, so it is true that LotV is taking longer due to Heroes.)
    - The new Lead Designer will be.... you will hear it in february.

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  18. #318
    Quote Originally Posted by Simca View Post
    The problem with leaks is that even if 95% of this is real, including the fake shit that somebody like me would know is false just ruins the authenticity of everything you say. If you think that the D3 team didn't grow significantly since launch, then you really don't have any insight into Blizzard after all.
    ...Why would a dev team increase after the game is done? Why would a team grow for a smaller scale expansion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laughtrey View Post
    ...Why would a dev team increase after the game is done? Why would a team grow for a smaller scale expansion?
    I read this and the thing that keeps popping into my mind is

    "99 little bugs in the code 99 little bugs in the code Take one down, patch it around 117 little bugs in the code"

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    Quote Originally Posted by laughtrey View Post
    ...Why would a dev team increase after the game is done? Why would a team grow for a smaller scale expansion?
    Console release required console-specific developers to be brought on board + expansion overhauled the majority of the game's systems.

    The D3 team went from like ~80-90 people to over 100 in the year following its release.

    The only way the OP would be correct is if they scaled down the D3 again very recently (my knowledge is half a year old) and he didn't know about the period with an increase in development.
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