Love pvp balance effecting my pve
Love pvp balance effecting my pve
Further to my previous post, as a tank / pure PvE player this is much more acceptable. This does significantly weaken disrupting shout removing our ability to dual interrupts, but i still don't want to swap it out for piercing howl, it's still a relevant talent on niche fights but aye a heavy nerf on disrupting, not as harsh as the charge nerf mind. A cooldown increase would of felt better in a PvE scenario though but i'll take this over the charge nerf.
I rarely PvP but the removal of charge's stun would have been retarded.
Blizzard added too much CC, Stuns or Interrupt Spells in MoP and suddenly things become Overpowered.
Instead of fixing the new Spells they then start to nerf old Spells which were fine before.
I mainly do PvE and i don't think this change will affect me in the slightest way, so for me this is by far the better change.
so basically if i understand correctly the way pummel and disrupting shout will work , disrupting shout will become useless unless you are surrounded by casters. Not to mention that now all the level 45 talents are useless. staggering breaks off damage - useless , piercing howl useless since warrior mobility is great and you can sit in enemy`s face all the time
From the perspective of a pve player i'm going to cry about this change. But then again it's better than the charge change.
Gonna miss pummeling for damage buff, bladestorm and interrupting the next cast on Galakras now.
I don't like this change I thought warriors were about control
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Last edited by cFortyfive; 2014-02-04 at 09:35 AM.
I don't think it's a "better" change at all.
The Charge nerf brought Warbringer on par with other talents pve-wise because on some fights you really need this stun but, let be realistic, you rarely need both the stun and a double charge. I think the only situation where this change bothered me was Challenge Mode. In most situation, it actually put Warbringer to a point where you have to choose between several talents.
Now, the new nerf basically destroys a talent. Ok, this talent was far better than the two others so it's a good idea to try and make them closer to each other. But for this tier to be useful in pve you'd have to buff the two other talents, not nerf the only viable one. (I'm talking about pve, here. I know it would be stupid in pvp.)
So now, outside of Garrosh (and maybe Nazgrim), I don't have any interesting talent on this tier. While before I could happily double-interrupt on Protectors or Galakras, for instance.
It's also create a very punitive gameplay. "Oh sh*t, I've used Plummel, I won't be able to aoe kick this pack!" in CM makes me afraid. I'm considering removing Plummel for my bar to avoid such a mistake.
Warlocks are literally gonna double their dmg (minus resillience) , while other classes will maybe get + 50% at best.
Warriors are entirely controllable in arenas, it's not even particularly hard. Yes, in duels Warriors are good against casters, but in duels Hunters are gods and nothing else stands a chance, so why are Hunters not being nerfed if it's duels we're focused on?
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This was a good change imo. The stun was placed there to keep the target in place when you charged, so you'd end up at the target. The root will do the same thing.
The stun effect was also used alot to interrupt spell casters, which was not its intended purpose. Warriors have plenty of interrupts and control, warriors will still be fine after this change.
They've also said they are looking to reduce CC in Warlords, so this change will be nice. Hopefully more of these changes will come for various classes.
Warrior's are casters nightmare. And no, they are not easily controllable with amount of cc mobility dmg they have.
Last edited by Killyox; 2014-02-04 at 10:37 AM.
Haha Killyox, you're signature is amazing :').
The new change is even better in my opinion!
Yeah I meant a better compromise would be to make Disrupt replace Pummel in the literal sense, ie Pummel becomes an AoE rupt at the same CD.
You gain something significant from the talent (as opposed to a little dubious), but lose the ability to rapidly chain 2 interrupts. Piercing basically grants an AoE Hamstring, so getting an AoE Pummel as the alternative sounds reasonable.
If 10yd radius 4s rupt every 15s is too over-the-top (I'm sceptical, since it still requires making sure everyone is silly enough to clump around a Warrior and stand around casting instead of fleeing in opposite directions), tweak it as necessary: lower radius, put on GCD, reduce lockout timer, increase CD to 24 / 30s to match other ranged interrupts, etc etc etc.
It just feels a little bad as a counterintuitive talent where you need 2 binds to choose between two abilities with shared but different cooldowns that do the exact same thing in most situations. Kind of Shaman Shock Syndrome, but at least with Shocks the CDs are identical and you're just choosing between very different options.
This is like having Frost Shock (6s), and then AoE Frost Shock (30s), and they both share a CD, except the CD works differently depending on the order you use them, so you have to track both separately anyway. Functional, but awkward.