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  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by Master Tinker View Post
    This at least is a more focused answer. Gnome fans are the most loyal to their race and their characters. If other fans actually had the same sort of sentiment about their favorite race, they too might be heard more. The reason you hear more about Gnomes is because they are the most underdeveloped race in the game. Each time we think we are getting some love and a key part in the show, it becomes a let down. If gnomes ever got access to all the classes, or even all but one, like the trolls, you would likely hear nothing from us.

    My greatest hope is, after the conclusion of WoD, the next expansion is Tech based, introduces a Tinker class, and gives Gnomes and Goblins center stage for an expansion. The closest we came to anything was the Battle for Gnomeregan, and even that was half assed.
    I wouldn't say that the gnome fan base is the most passionate, but they seem that way because gnomes have the largest hate base to contrast with. "Gnomes are jokes," "gnomes are unimportant," "nobody cares about gnomes," and so forth. Next to that, anybody even noncommittal about them stands out like a sore thumb. Plus, it takes a lot of work to stay passionate about something in the face of that sort of heat. I don't blame gnome fans for getting defensive about liking the race.

    I don't even play Alliance and I think gnomes have got a bum rap. It would be nice to see some more story featuring them. Maybe they'd finally start to shed some of the stigma they've picked up over the years. Maybe the hate base would start to shrink a bit as people slowly come to realize that gnomes can be badass too. And I would love to see an expansion that showcases Warcraft tech, as it's my favorite part of the setting but rarely takes center stage. But that's just one tauren druid's opinion.

  2. #82
    Another superman thread where he ignores everyone who disagrees and then says he's getting no negative feedback. And then later calls it a "thought experiment" because he was "bored and wanted to make a splash"

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    Gnome lore is simple. The old gods decided they wanted to invent football. Hence they created gnomes to be used as footballs. gnome punting was born.

  4. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Drilnos View Post
    I wouldn't say that the gnome fan base is the most passionate, but they seem that way because gnomes have the largest hate base to contrast with. "Gnomes are jokes," "gnomes are unimportant," "nobody cares about gnomes," and so forth. Next to that, anybody even noncommittal about them stands out like a sore thumb. Plus, it takes a lot of work to stay passionate about something in the face of that sort of heat. I don't blame gnome fans for getting defensive about liking the race.

    I don't even play Alliance and I think gnomes have got a bum rap. It would be nice to see some more story featuring them. Maybe they'd finally start to shed some of the stigma they've picked up over the years. Maybe the hate base would start to shrink a bit as people slowly come to realize that gnomes can be badass too. And I would love to see an expansion that showcases Warcraft tech, as it's my favorite part of the setting but rarely takes center stage. But that's just one tauren druid's opinion.
    Once WoD launches, and people get to see the benefits of the new Gnome racials, I am guessing there may be a shift in things.

    Gnome

    Expansive Mind now increases maximum Mana, Energy, Rage, and Runic Power by 5% instead of only increasing maximum Mana.

    Escape Artist’s cooldown has been reduced to 1 minute (down from 1.5 minutes).

    Shortblade Specialization (was 1% Expertise with one-handed swords and daggers) has been replaced with Nimble Fingers.

    Nimble Fingers is a new racial passive ability that increases Haste by 1%.
    This means a gnome rogue not only gets more energy, and faster energy recovery, but the trinket has been reduced by 50%. Also, my Blood DK now gets 5% more runic power, and an increased rune regeneration. Hello tanking advantage.

    I don't take Gnome hate seriously. These people obviously have some real life issues fueling it. That's their issue, not mine. My goal is to stay focused on Gnomes as a great race, and see that they are eventually given the attention and respect they deserve.

  5. #85
    I support Gnome Hunters.

  6. #86
    Quote Originally Posted by DomesticViolence View Post
    I support Gnome Hunters.
    I do too. I think Gnomes are do for more classes in General.

  7. #87
    While I think tiny gnome druids would be adorable, gnome hunters are the most likely.

    Personally, I think the best thing that could happen to gnomes would be make them the central Alliance faction of an expansion, soaking you in gnomish lore and decor for a year or two. This could be as simple as making the Alliance hub (portals, trainers, etc.) be a gnomish town, massive airship, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master Tinker View Post
    Once WoD launches, and people get to see the benefits of the new Gnome racials, I am guessing there may be a shift in things.

    This means a gnome rogue not only gets more energy, and faster energy recovery, but the trinket has been reduced by 50%. Also, my Blood DK now gets 5% more runic power, and an increased rune regeneration. Hello tanking advantage.
    I think they are trying to get more Alliance high-end raiding activity by handing out OP racials this time around. I think it will backfire and cause the exact same problem next expansion with factions reversed.

    I don't take Gnome hate seriously. These people obviously have some real life issues fueling it. That's their issue, not mine. My goal is to stay focused on Gnomes as a great race, and see that they are eventually given the attention and respect they deserve.
    In my experience, most "gnome hate" is good natured fun and not serious. If you want to see serious race hate, just look at pandaren haters right on this board.
    Last edited by Darmalus; 2014-03-04 at 08:01 PM.

  8. #88
    Of the various class/race combos still lacking, some of the biggest outcry comes for adding Shamans, Hunters, or Paladins to Gnomes. And I strongly believe the best possibility for a new Gnome class would be Shamans.

    Between Warriors, DK's, and Monks, we don't really need another tanking-capable class, even if Holy-spec would lower a bit of demand on the Priests, so that sharply drops odds for Paladins, if not outright removes them from the running.

    We totally lack any form of mail-using class whatsoever, so there's a big bonus in favor of Hunters and Shamans, if only for the sake of expanding transmog looks, LOL.

    With only seven classes (the lowest amount of all races), three of which being pure-DPS types (rogues, mages, and warlocks), and two of those being ranged attackers, adding a fourth DPS-only ranged class to make fully half of our already-limited class choices pure-DPS seems all sorts of redundant. And while the small stature of our hated rivals, the Goblins, kills the jokes about "eaten by pet" and such, the truth is, we simply lack the subtle empathy needed to have animal companionship - why else would we rather build our pets and mounts instead of breed them? Either way, down go the Hunter odds.

    As Shamans have Restoration spec, this would also expand the race's healing capabilities and raid versatility. Another mark in favor of Shamans.

    And the finishing-blow is this: Goblins, with the mechanical "totems" and elemental-binding contracts, have proven it is possible to use technology (and their craftily-loopholed legalese trickery) to utilize the powers of the Elements without the typical spiritualism and worshipful reverence normally shown by the other races who have a Shaman class. And since Gnomes and Goblins have been rivals since literally the pre-WoW days, it makes perfect sense that there could be a group of Gnomes somewhere, studying the nature of the elemental powers and how to harness them, in what basically amounts to "anything you can do, I can do better".
    Plus, think of the benefits... Steampunk techno-totems! Trainers referred to as "Environmental Engineer"! GNOMISH CHAIN LIGHTNING! What's not to love?

    Right now, the only two races with element-unique-model totems are both Horde - the trolls have different masks on each of theirs, while the Goblins have different fans and drills and such on theirs. All other races have a singular model with only different colors marking which element is which. That is obviously an unfair balance.

    Gnomish totems could rival the Goblin ones in their mechanical goodness, and have potential to offer element-unique models for the Alliance side - currently, only Horde have races (trolls and goblins) whose totem models are individually-unique and not just recolors of a single design for each race.

    I propose tiny clockwork robo-totems! The Air totem-bot could have a winged jetpack. The Earth totem-bot could have tank treads. The Fire totem bot could have a flamethrower. The Water totem-bot could have scuba-gear.
    Thinking about it, it is not entirely implausible my ideas for elemental robots might resemble Mega Man villains. This is just an awesome bonus.
    I find it utterly laughable that people are having ZERO issues with android monks, cyborg dwarves, and shadow-warping gunplay assassins, but they throw absolute FITS if you suggest a timejumping tomboy might be gay or that a walking artillery-platform might self-identify as female.
    Apparently, the superintelligent jetpack gorilla from the Moon makes perfect sense, but chrono-displaced lesbians and transgender automatons is just ridiculous!

  9. #89
    Anything new for Gnomes would certainly be welcomed.

  10. #90
    Some great thoughts in the thread, I fully support more Gnome classes, especially Shaman Gnomish totems.

  11. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by Falkenstein View Post
    Some great thoughts in the thread, I fully support more Gnome classes, especially Shaman Gnomish totems.
    Gnome shamans could absolutely work. Make a cleaner techie version of the Goblin totems.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkvoltinx View Post
    sure you can have Dreanei warlocks

  12. #92
    There was a post here the other day for D.R.U.I.D. robotic animal forms. THAT's a druid concept I can get behind!

  13. #93
    Quote Originally Posted by Futhark View Post
    There was a post here the other day for D.R.U.I.D. robotic animal forms. THAT's a druid concept I can get behind!
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...bo-Gnome-Druid

    This one?
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkvoltinx View Post
    sure you can have Dreanei warlocks

  14. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkvoltinx View Post
    i cant take gnome druids seriously.
    That's because you play a Troll Hunter. I figured you were Horde by the disdain in most of your posts. The troll thing just cements why you hate Gnomes. Then again, I've seen the new racials. I imagine that hate will grow come 6.05.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darkvoltinx View Post
    sure you can have Dreanei warlocks

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    I would like to see a Gnome-based expansion following WoD. It would make sense given that it would be in the aftermath of the Iron Horde invasion.

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