Yes, when you're decked out in full H or HWF gear... the differences become really apparent. But otherwise, shadow brings so much healing utility to a raid that it's not funny. If anything, the real issue is that we do so much random passive healing between VE, divine star/halo and keeping ourselves up with DP... we help make any non-absorb healer look like crap.
I'd love to see a warlock or mage help top off a raid just before or just after a Swelling Pride for example.
You are not your role. You are not how much gold you have on your account.
You are not the mount you ride. You are not the contents of your bank.
You are not your epic purples. You are not a special and unique snowflake.
You are the all-grinding, all-farming crap of Azeroth.
But then, I suppose (from a design point of view) it goes back to if you only want to DPS, why are you choosing a single spec of a hybrid over a pure dps class?
But yes, shadow is viable, at least for PvE. Below average for 25-man, suboptimal for 10-man, but viable. I don't know about 25, but at least on 10-man boomkins can heal just as much, and shaman can heal even more than shadow without the dps loss. Shadow's off-healing as utility is highly overrated and does not make up for its dps deficiencies. H Thok is the only fight I can think of where you might actually want a shadow priest's utility.
And before you ask, I would define "Viable" in pvp by saying "In this comp, would including a shadowpriest make it better?", and the answer is always NO.
Last edited by Venaliter; 2014-02-11 at 06:04 AM.
For PVE i'd like to see blizzard focusing less on aoe damage and instead making our single target damage more on pair with the rest of the classes.
Viable is not the same thing as optimal.
I would prefer having strong multi dot to strong single target. It's fairly rare where there are more single target fights than multi dot.
Tell you what, I've gotten many top rankings, and my raid don't give two shits about it.. We haven't tailored any stategies for my needs. I haven't been favored any gear. Rng, maybe.. But wouldn't that be strange considering the consistent high rankings? Or am I (and all of the other consistently high ranking priests) just that lucky?
Rng might play a factor for the very top. But to say that "most of the top rankings is from cheesing" is just wrong. (When I say top, I mean top 20ish. Not top 3)
Last edited by Jomu; 2014-02-11 at 04:07 PM.
On that try i had 11.6% uptime on Toxic power. Thats very bad. So on a bad try i was beaten by 1 person in the raid.
The only fight where i fall behind is Iron Jugger because of the pure single target. On the rest of the fights i can win or be in the top 3-5 all the time.
Last edited by Surarn; 2014-02-11 at 05:21 PM.
And the fact that im ranking higher than Drye means nothing?
I am going after ranks, means i play to get them. I ranked 3 on Malkorok on that rank and you can check all my ranks. I am always in the top.
Sure im padding on some bosses but most of them arent padding. Sure i Mind Sear the adds on Sha of Pride and Immerseus but thats needed if you want a high rank on Proraiders.
The worst padding i do is doing dmg to the yeti on Thok.
On bosses like Iron Jugg there is a limit to the dps you can do if you dont get lucky with your trinket proccs.
Last edited by Surarn; 2014-02-11 at 06:21 PM.
What is all this padding that I am apparently doing? To me, the definition of padding is doing "worthless" damage. Damage that does not contribute to the kill. Please point out ONE situation where this is being done in my logs? With the exception of paragons where I multi dot for DI (for an inside guild discussion might I add)
I have to thank you for your contribution to the discussion btw. Personal attacks are always nice. Also, please, do link these amazing logs of yours.
Last edited by Jomu; 2014-02-11 at 06:22 PM.