Ganking Lowbies. What's the charm?

[Karnak]

So play a PvE realm then....

Ganking lowbies is not PvP. Its Pv as the other player can't make it vP, they just get one shot.

[Barkhouse]

I get a small rush of excitement when I kill another player, even if it's a lowbie. Plus I've always loved to see how people react whenever you offend them or piss them off. It's interesting and funny what they say and do sometimes.

[Anaralah]

my main aim when i spot an enemy player is to kill them no matter the conditions

even if i know that they are higher lvl / better geared / counter class / more skilled , my aim is to kill them , i ll one shot them if i can and kill 3-4 more times till i am bored , i will wait with patience if i know i cant take them in a fair fight until he overpulls / takes fall dmg or something like that , my goal is to kill and i will be as ruthless as i can be to achieve that

what is more fun is to kill them when they think they are at safest spot , trick lowbies into tagging in a non-contested zone , or sneak into cities to kill recently arrived tagged players , or act like you are helping on a quest just to kill them when mob is at %5 hp

it may be cowardly but it is just the way to the end goal , to kill the enemy , and there are few things more satisfying than making ppl relog to a char of your faction and beg you /rage at you , yes it is better when someone your equal or someone better than you does that , but still when a lowbie does that instead of just logging off without caring or bringing his main to kill you it brings pleasure

[dudugum]

i never gank questing lowbies when i mine herb or doing something on my 90s.. but every time i lvl a char i get one shoted numerous times by much higher lvl chars..

[Deleted]

I remember a time when these topics went like "it's a pvp server, don't like it, leave", and we could be done with it. How WoW and gaming has changed in such little time.

[Ealyssa]

If it's red, it's dead.

Even if since MoP I play on a PVE server. I played on PVP since vanilla until early MoP. And killing opposite faction is a duty, not an option. But I make a clear difference in killing someone (no matter the level) and ganking someone. In the first case you kill and continue your way but on the other you camp the dead body killing him again at respawn and that's being a douche.

But even then PVP means player versus player. It's not FPVELFP (Fair player versus equivalent leveled fair player, yeah such amaze).

[Deleted]

I never attack someone from the other side unless I'm attacked first. I think the greatest thing is soloing a difficult group quest undergeared at too low level like "no place to run" and then being helped by someone from the opposite faction. I can only guess what would motivate someone to gank lowbies.

1. They have problems. I always think that they have to gank lowbies to save themselves. They obviously can't beat people of the same level so they need to beat weaklings to save them from their frustration.

2. They're cowards. They're not the kind of people that dare to continue shopping at the quartermaster when someone of the opposite faction shows up, they are the kind of people that need a gun in their pocket to feel safe on the streets.

3. They're out of patience. Maybe they just have given up hope on someone friendly from the opposite faction and instead think they're all bad and kill them all.

[glycerethe]

gank lowbies > making lowbies mad > lowbies log on to main to seek revenge > start of world PvP

With the exception that the ganker is a rogue, then world PvP won't happen.

[lakhesis]

They were red and now they're dead.

There are no prisoners in WoW.

If you don't like it, play on a PVE server (like I normally do).

[ipaq]

Disclaimer: Not a thread meant to troll or to bitch. I am genuinely intrigued
Disclaimer 2: I wasn't sure whether to put this in PvP forum or here, but I figured this was a phenomenon not limited to PvPers. If mods disagree, I don't mind getting moved there.

So. Like the title says: Ganking lowbies. What's the charm? Having recently moved to a PvP-server with my guild and having leveled a character through it, I must wonder what drives people at lvl90 to swoop down and oneshot someone who can't even hit them. Be it me myself questing, be it a guildmate or a friend questing, there seems to always be one or two lvl90 rogues/hunters/mages/whatnot there killing lowbies.

No challenge. No reward. Not even those "sweet sweet tears" that censer-people at TI seem to enjoy (still haven't grinded my bloody coins... maybe eventually) due to difference in faction. Not to mention the ever-looming possibility of getting your face smashed in by said lowbies heroic-SoO-geared main (I did that once or twice. Got tired of being constantly killed, logged to my main and made a case for myself)

Is it purely the joy of trolling? If so, What if, like in my case, the one being ganked doesn't really care unless it's a repeated effort (being ganked by the same guy in the same spot 6 times in a row gets really old, cue login as main)? Is it to maintain the illusion of World PvP? if so, why not fight lvl90's? plenty of them roaming around.

What makes a lowbie ganker tick? I honestly want to know.

You cried about it on a public forum.

I call that a job well done.

[Dormie]

I remember a time when these topics went like "it's a pvp server, don't like it, leave", and we could be done with it. How WoW and gaming has changed in such little time.

Except that there is a spot between PvP and PvE server that the players aren't able to choose. And since PvE servers are downright unrealistic in not being able to attack enemies unless they let you, I will join PvP and complain about gankers.

I like how in most threads people don't care about the lore, and say to scrap it in favor of game mechanics. But when it comes to PvP, they use lore/RP as a scapegoat to be ganking douches.

[Kaleredar]

What's wrong with lowbies attacking lowbies? I figured that's exactly what pvp realms are for.

"In brightest day, in darkest night,
no ganking horde shall escape my might
Let those who gank all in sight
Beware my power-- EAT FROST STRIKE!"

[lakhesis]

Except that there is a spot between PvP and PvE server that the players aren't able to choose. And since PvE servers are downright unrealistic in not being able to attack enemies unless they let you, I will join PvP and complain about gankers.

I like how in most threads people don't care about the lore, and say to scrap it in favor of game mechanics. But when it comes to PvP, they use lore/RP as a scapegoat to be ganking douches.

I very much agree that there should be a space in all MMOs for "within X levels only" style PVP servers.

Hopefully the forthcoming no-PVP technology that Bliz is talking about introducing could be extended to have that potential.

But in the meantime, seriously.. if folk sign up for servers that enable gang warfare, then they need to accept what they've signed up for & suck it up.

I get that neither option is preferable, but how often do you see people actually calling for a third server type as opposed to just relentlessly whinging?

[wych]

Ganking lowbies is not PvP. Its Pv as the other player can't make it vP, they just get one shot.

It is PvP, stop trying to cloud the issue.

[Dormie]

It is PvP, stop trying to cloud the issue.

Saying it's PvP makes the term PvP meaningless.

[glowpipe]

Those ganking lowbies over and over do so because they suck so bad they cant beat anyone their own level. Or 10 levels lower

[-Superman-]

So play a PvE realm then....

I am on an RP (Pve) Realm. Maybe PvPers need to find a new excuse.

[Karnak]

What's wrong with lowbies attacking lowbies? I figured that's exactly what pvp realms are for.

I very much enjoyed lowbie vs lowbie fights when was doing my test run on a PvP server, but I also always won them unless I was out numbered. A couple of time my friend and I had lowbies that were lower than us, to the point of hopelessness if they engaged, gank themselves on us by attacking us and forcing us to kill them. We never killed those who were helpless against us as doing so isn't fun.

Players at cap ganking us was just an annoyance, but an expected one so no use getting bent out of shape over it.

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It is PvP, stop trying to cloud the issue.

No, there is no risk to the attacking party and no hope for the attacked party.

If the zone trash at cap level is %100,000,000 more dangerous to you than the other player you are killing is, then you aren't doing PvP (nor PvE), but rather something else.

[Joey Ray III]

Saying it's PvP makes the term PvP meaningless.

how about when full heroic 570 guy attacks some poor alt in TI gear? is that PvP? heirlooms vs. questing items? premade vs. pug? i mean at what point do you make a distinction?

when one players attack the other it's PvP and that's that. it doesn't have to be fair.

[Anonymous1038853]

I personally find no gratification in ganking low-level characters, because there really is no challenge. That said, I'll occasionally do it in the hopes of baiting an encounter. The premise is quite simple: If the lowbie cannot defend himself or herself, he or she will seek out help, either from a guild, friend, or chat channel. This in turn brings better combatants. So in my case, the lowbie is just bait.

In-fact, that's also why I would camp a low-level character. If they're comfortable, they're less likely to seek assistance.