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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    This is really weird.
    Not remotely weird. Facebook is just allowing its product to label themselves more accurately, so it can charge potential purchasers more.
    Since 9/11 the NSA has spent at least $70,000,000,000 while lying about their own effectiveness. Even if we sweep aside the extensive lawbreaking, ethical problems, economic damage, and abuse of power, the fact remains that the NSA makes us all less secure, running useless mass surveillance, with a handful of successes in other questionably legal programs.

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    Yeah, go faceboo- 50?

    I mean, sure i'm glad for them and all, but 50?

    I'm struggling to find 6 as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    So explain to me the difference between psychiatry and psychology, since you "get it".
    Bait better.
    Gay people where subject to the same medical theory, for close to the same reason as what you are saying people not like you, who have gender Identity issues are.
    You want to say it's a neurological abnormality or whatever. OK well, they say that about gay people too. Well being gay is not thought of in those same constraints anymore, so after such a swing and a miss, why flock to the same thing with some other group? (*I mean other then confirming your own bias)
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    Huh? All I see is a box I can type a gender description into, after I've chosen "custom"

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    The fact that the top comment on the article is "Yet we still don't have a "dislike" button..." has left me in stitches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tastyfish View Post
    Bait better.
    Gay people where subject to the same medical theory, for close to the same reason as what you are saying people not like you, who have gender Identity issues are.
    You want to say it's a neurological abnormality or whatever. OK well, they say that about gay people too. Well being gay is not thought of in those same constraints anymore, so after such a swing and a miss, why flock to the same thing with some other group? (*I mean other then confirming your own bias)
    So you didn't explain it at all, and still don't grasp why the fundamental difference is actually relevant, and how modern psychiatry hasn't found any such defect for sexual orientation and even removed it as a mental condition. But yet, remarkably, there's a shitload of bigoted doctors out there with a bunch of shit science because you just say so. Handwave harder.

    Quote Originally Posted by Llunai View Post
    Huh? All I see is a box I can type a gender description into, after I've chosen "custom"
    Start entering random characters, like T or M or W, you'll see.

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    It's alright they can call themselves whatever they want.
    Don't get mad when I don't refer to you as demisexual transmogified female man with genderfluids

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manakin View Post
    Yeah, go faceboo- 50?

    I mean, sure i'm glad for them and all, but 50?

    I'm struggling to find 6 as it is.
    Apparently there's an unsure opinion.

    Um...I'm unsure how someone could be unsure. Especially when there's 49 other options.

    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Is this the beauty of tolerance or people being a little crazy? Is gender really a social construct?
    Not sure also, when Facebook offers tons of different languages, yet has Pirate and others mixed in there.
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    My shaman I guess if you want to see it or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7477289

    One of many. The brain develops opposite of genetic code.

    As is your medical prerogative. But I don't have to accept hallucinations either.
    I again, will ask, do you view LGB people as having brain defects as well? Since the size of a certain part of the brain has been indicated to have an impact on sexual orientation as well, and that the development of sexual orientation is related to how the developing brain interacts with hormones. It seems like gender identity is determined in a similar fashion as sexual orientation, so therefore, do you believe that LGB people have a defect as well as trans people? Since according to your logic, they would. Also note, that the study mentions that sex hormones have no impact in adulthood for determining gender identity, therefore, attempting to "cure" an adult who is transgender would not really be possible unless you were to lobotomise the part of the brain that determines gender identity, and that honestly sounds similar to methods used in the past to attempt to "cure" homosexuality.

    Except according to the study you just linked, I'm not accepting "hallucinations" I'm simply accepting what my gender identity is, which was determined by how my brain formed when it was developing. According to your same logic for the argument you made, one who is LGB would also be accepting "hallucinations" about what their sexual orientation is.
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    What exactly is the problem with letting non-cisgendered people select their appropriate gender? It doesn't affect you at all. If you think it's 'ridiculous' or 'pointless' you clearly don't struggle with gender identity issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    So you didn't explain it at all, and still don't grasp why the fundamental difference is actually relevant, and how modern psychiatry hasn't found any such defect for sexual orientation and even removed it as a mental condition. But yet, remarkably, there's a shitload of bigoted doctors out there with a bunch of shit science because you just say so. Handwave harder.
    .
    See contridiction sucks.
    I am just responding to your claim here: These people have a proven brain defect that makes them think they're another gender;

    So which is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hastings View Post
    I again, will ask, do you view LGB people as having brain defects as well?
    No, because:

    1) There's no proof.
    2) There's no detrimental impact to their daily lives.

    It's not only not a mental disorder, it's not a brain defect. GID is both.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tastyfish View Post
    These people have a proven brain defect that makes them think they're another gender;

    So which is it?

    Maybe if you knew which one (psychiatry or psychology) dealt with actual biology/physiology you'd understand. But you said you "got it". Do you not?

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    I just think it's unnecessary for 50 but I'm not in charge of Facebook so I'm not going to complain.
    Blizzard do not destroy Jaina Proudmoore's character. Make her who she once was, not full of rage and vengeance.,If you are curious about me or about my writing aspirations, feel free to pst me. Paladin-Sorcerer at your service! http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...htsongg/simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    So explain to me the difference between psychiatry and psychology, since you "get it".
    I'm a psychologist and would like to read the same. From you. Saying trans are sick because have "a brain defect" is so 50 years ago and make me sick.

    I love how people take one research result and take its results as proven facts; not to mention what you linked suggests (it doesn't prove, it suggests) there is a difference between brain structures, and that's all there is: a difference. Since when does a difference become a sickness?

    Reminds me why I don't want to read about serious stuff in a video games forum.

    You may add that most of the psychopathology manuals report the so-called gender identity disorder to support your claim, then you would definitely prove you know nothing how about psychiatry and psychology work.

    I.T. I am surprised myself they've chosen so many options, I find it just a little overkill, but I don't know much about transgender reality myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    I just think it's unnecessary for 50 but I'm not in charge of Facebook so I'm not going to complain.
    I long for the day i'm recognized as a Corgi, i face such daily discrimination as being forced to sign as a human.

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    This doesn't concern me, so I see no reason to complain.
    If it feels more including for the LBGT community then why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiattalo View Post
    Saying trans are sick because have "a brain defect" is so 50 years ago and make me sick.
    I better not call schizos sick either. Because to pinpoint that their brain is ill/malformed and that their fantasies aren't real must be equally as "sick".

    For fucks sake they can even confirm GID through postmortem autopsy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manakin View Post
    I long for the day i'm recognized as a Corgi, i face such daily discrimination as being forced to sign as a human.
    But I can't call you sick, that's just not PC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manakin View Post
    I long for the day i'm recognized as a Corgi, i face such daily discrimination as being forced to sign as a human.
    Freaking Corgis...trying to be special.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    Oh my God I'm looking through the list right now and laughing my ass off.

    Trans Man or Trans Male? The fuck is the difference?
    Hey, as a transabled, transethnic, non-binary, genderqueer, neo-communist, indoor-capable republican otherkin I am offended by your callous display of ignorance.
    If you really want to freak people the fuck out you have to pepper your schemes with mind-boggling inefficiency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spiattalo View Post
    I'm a psychologist and would like to read the same.
    A real psychologist, or someone who's taken a psych class or two and imagines themselves to be an expert?
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    trust me, i would rather live next to an active volcano than reveal my internet history of porn
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    You can add other stuff and still called it a grilled cheese, it's an american thing, but getting butt hurt over it means you have way too much free time and you should be using it to be making more grilled cheese.

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