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Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
Same here. In that short story he faced Garrosh down over a Pandaren superweapon similar to the Divine Bell. He wanted to keep it from being used at all. So Garrosh comes knocking, razing a path through Azshara right up to the Pleasure Palace, and Gallywix busts through the door in his tank and gives him a fight worthy of any other racial leader. And then when Garrosh finally manages to kill the tank, Gallywix ejects from the wreckage and launches himself right into his face, sacrificing his life just to get another shot in. It turned out to be just a vision of the future that would occur if Gallywix's henchmen brought the weapon back to him, so they left it where it was.
My respect for that guy jumped up several brackets after reading that.
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
I dont think Tinkerer should be in the game, reasoning being that for example my main has been a engineer since vanilla and always carry a half inventory of gadgets, if Blizzard want some more Thinkerer experience, they could simply add some more fun and unique gadgets to the engineering profession, but i think adding a class would undermine Engineering.
Those ages are between 3 and 5 years old. You were specific. The young man in that story is at least 10 years older than your "theory" would suggest. Which means that no, it has no credibility. And it can no longer be called a theory, at best being nothing more than a thoroughly disproven wild mass guess. Which is hardly surprising, considering your refusal to do research has rendered the bulk of your oeuvre into that.in WoW, a mage starts his magical studies around the time a normal kid starts school or pre-school.
Last edited by Drilnos; 2014-03-03 at 09:41 PM.
1.Blizzard can't really add offensive gadgets to Engineering, because doing so would potentially cause the profession to be OP.
2.The class wouldn't undermine Engineering. People spec into Engineering to build mounts or craft armor, not to tank raids, or heal. Also a Tinker could also partake in the Engineering profession, so where's the damage?
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
My, my... such anger...
And my theory still stands. You gave me one example, the hero of that book. But it just that. One example. It just means that not all mages start at an early age. We see the hero never pursued anything because of his shame for being too weak for being a fighter like his brother, hailing from a family that apparently distrusts mages, being how they practically shun their other brother who became a practicioner of the arcane arts.
As a Gnomish ENG myself, I have a dozen tinkers that give me all kinds of offense. Like a Goblin Glider, Incendiary Fireworks Launcher, Tazik Shocker, and more. Granted, most of my items are Defensive or just for fun, but the word Tinker is found in the category for each of these items.
Don't misunderstand me. I love Gnomes (and goblins when I am forced to play Horde with friends). I love Engineering. I even love the thought of a tinker class that should go to ONLY Gnomes and Goblins. But, even I can see there is far too much similarity for the class to ever be completely distinguishable from the profession. It would be the same if Mages relied on Potions for some of their damage. How would Alchemists feel? If it did ever come to WoW, I would like it to be Gnome and Goblin only, and you get certain class bonuses if you take ENG as a prof.
Then change the name to Mechanic, Technician, Artificer, Gearsmith, Mekgineer, Inventor, etc. Tinker is merely the most common name attributed to a WoW technology class.
How do you figure that? If you look at the Tinker's abilities, none of them exist in Engineering. These abilities include Pocket Factory, Deth Lazor, Cluster Rockets, Gravity Bomb, Robo-Goblin, and others. Additionally, if Blizzard goes for the direct WC3 incarnation, the Tinker would utilize the Hammer/Claw tank system which also doesn't exist in Engineering.Don't misunderstand me. I love Gnomes (and goblins when I am forced to play Horde with friends). I love Engineering. I even love the thought of a tinker class that should go to ONLY Gnomes and Goblins. But, even I can see there is far too much similarity for the class to ever be completely distinguishable from the profession. It would be the same if Mages relied on Potions for some of their damage. How would Alchemists feel? If it did ever come to WoW, I would like it to be Gnome and Goblin only, and you get certain class bonuses if you take ENG as a prof.
And that's of course if we're talking about Blizzard doing a direct WC3 translation. Blizzard could very well do a technology class that takes the Tinker's abilities, and call the class something completely different, ala the Monk class.
In either case, neither effects the Engineering profession at all. The primary function of Engineering is to craft armor and mounts, not to perform the job of a class.
There's no denying that there are some basic things which would at least be similar between the two, because Engineering has been both the dumping ground for all of their tech-related ideas and been trying to be a half-class for such a long time. And there are some naming conventions which would also be similar. But every class has issues like that. Mages and priests and warlocks are similar but different. Engineering's half-class properties would be different from Tinkering, in different ways maybe, but still different. The only reason this is being brought up as an issue is because Engineering is sitting all alone in the mechanical design space, while the magic design space already has multiple constructs sitting in it so that people can see the lines.
I'll agree that the Tinker tab under engineering would be better renamed to something like Augments or Gizmos in the event that the class is added. Those things aren't tinkers anyway, in any definition of the word as a noun. In terms of class bonuses though, I think Engineering creating items which Tinkers could use as gear would be plenty of synergy. Case in point, guns. Engineering is the gunsmithing profession, which would make it synergize with Tinkers if Tinkers could use guns. It could have its territory expand to include crossbows and some assorted mail gear - not just goggles, but other slots too, carefully chosen to not clash with the slots Leatherworkers can fill. All of this would combine to make Engineering the logical choice for a Tinker in the same way Blacksmithing is the logical choice for a Warrior.
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor
Oh dear god please PLEASE be trollbaiting. Because they dident SQUEEZE the Pandaren in you idiot. In Warcraft 3, the Pandaren Bremaster Chen Stormstrout aided the half ogre Rexxar in helping Thrall construct Orgrimmar. and the Pandaren even helped Lordaeron. which if you dident know, is now undercity. it used to be the capital of humans. so no they dident SQQQUUEEEZE it. it was already there, but you failed to do your research