[NVIDIA] GTX TITAN Black performance + announcement video (750 + 750 Ti, too)

[Jakexe]

I think your missing the big picture, the 750ti looks fucking adorable with it's little fan on the PCB.

As for actual performance it gets a mighty big 'meh' but I've been building a few steambox's lately, might fit well in there. It'll be good when I get a hands on and see.

[Toffie]

I think nVidia raised the prices on their 650 Ti Boost making the 750 Ti better price to performance so far.

650 Ti Boost 2 GB = 190 $
750 Ti 2 GB = 150 $
R7-265 = 150 $

The AMD card is 16 % faster though, the problem is I don't see the 150 $ price being met with all the miners ripping them off and retailers jacking the prices up.

[NuLogic]

I think nVidia raised the prices on their 650 Ti Boost making the 750 Ti better price to performance so far.

650 Ti Boost 2 GB = 190 $
750 Ti 2 GB = 150 $
R7-265 = 150 $

The AMD card is 16 % faster though, the problem is I don't see the 150 $ price being met with all the miners ripping them off and retailers jacking the prices up.

Yeah I was thinking of getting an 265 but I'm worried the price won't last for long.

Off topic holy shit my curse client was using 4-6gb of ram and dropping from 200mb to 6gb in a couple seconds.....

[Gravewyrm]

Just from taking a quick glance .. the 750Ti is barely better than my 560Ti? Half the bandwidth (128bit vs 256), dbl the VRAM vs my 560Ti, dbl the cuda cores ... Im going to have to see if I can get ahold of one, and do a side by side comparison. Ive been holding out for a 7xx card to replace this thing, but alas, everything is over the $200 mark. If it can NOTICEABLY beat my 560, ill grab one. Otherwise... I'll wait another year (going on 3 yrs with this thing .. whats another, right?)

[Ripox]

Just from taking a quick glance .. the 750Ti is barely better than my 560Ti? Half the bandwidth (128bit vs 256), dbl the VRAM vs my 560Ti, dbl the cuda cores ... Im going to have to see if I can get ahold of one, and do a side by side comparison. Ive been holding out for a 7xx card to replace this thing, but alas, everything is over the $200 mark. If it can NOTICEABLY beat my 560, ill grab one. Otherwise... I'll wait another year (going on 3 yrs with this thing .. whats another, right?)

Let's take a look
stock game performance: within 5% of GTX 650 Ti BOOST performance


OC game performance: Within 5% (sometimes better than, sometimes worse than) GTX 660. I think here you'll see it beating the 560 Ti by quite a bit.



Power draw: Superb


Temps



Noise



With recent driver improvements, 660 is fairly ahead of 560 Ti

If OC'd 750 Ti is around GTX 660 performance (sometimes better) while being quieter, running cooler, and pulling less power, yeah I'd say the 750 Ti is better than the 560 Ti. Is it worth the upgrade? Doubt it. Rather invest more in something like 770 if you're coming from 560 Ti to really feel a difference

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[ocis]

The problem with comparing the MSRP of the 750Ti to the MSRP of the R7 260 or 265 is that there hasn't been a refreshed AMD card that's decently powerful selling at MSRP in a very long time. Hell, that's the reason for them introducing the R7 265 in the first place. Then you start thinking about availability issues and the like. Granted, NVidia isn't going to give you something at a deal, they always price their products competitive to the market, but at least you know the products generally stay at MSRP or go lower.

I think the real excitement isn't about the card itself either, but what the power efficiency of Maxwell means for mobile graphics and higher end desktop graphics. If NVidia can get this kind of performance in under 60W on 28nm processing, what kind of desktop performance can we look forward to at 20nm processing and a 300W ceiling for power consumption? Will gaming laptops become more viable with stronger solutions that don't require gigantic power bricks? Less power means less heat as well so instead of a 780Ti with a 250W TDP, are we looking at something that might be 15% more powerful but draws in less than 200W? That makes heat much less of an issue, especially when trying to build an SLI system.

[Toffie]

A GTX 880 with less than 200w TDP but 15 % more performance than a 780 Ti would be a HUGE disappointment. The 750 Ti's power effiency is extremely valueable to people with low end PC's, like the PCP video above presented.

Performance first, then power effiency for the high end segment.

[Gravewyrm]

With me using a somewhat .. ok, very shitty setup of APU + 560Ti, im leaning to get the 750Ti OC from MSI. Thanks to the more detailed benchmarks listed above .. its most likely a 2 fold improvement in FPS over my 560Ti. For $170 from newegg, it fits the price point I need. Would I rather a 770? hells yes, but with the price tag out of my reach, the 750Ti is actually quite a gain, according to all the benches. Sure, I lose 256bit, BUT, I gain less power draw, up to triple the frames in certain games, and more cuda cores for compute stuff. Toss in Shadowplay support, and its pretty much a no brainer for some one in the sub $200 market.

[Toffie]

With me using a somewhat .. ok, very shitty setup of APU + 560Ti, im leaning to get the 750Ti OC from MSI. Thanks to the more detailed benchmarks listed above .. its most likely a 2 fold improvement in FPS over my 560Ti. For $170 from newegg, it fits the price point I need. Would I rather a 770? hells yes, but with the price tag out of my reach, the 750Ti is actually quite a gain, according to all the benches. Sure, I lose 256bit, BUT, I gain less power draw, up to triple the frames in certain games, and more cuda cores for compute stuff. Toss in Shadowplay support, and its pretty much a no brainer for some one in the sub $200 market.

Or, you could get a GTX 660.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffil...S&promoid=1253

[Gravewyrm]

Or, you could get a GTX 660.
http://us.ncix.com/products/?usaffil...S&promoid=1253

Up front cost of 200 bones. Higher power req, noise is higher, temps are higher. For a 1-2 fps gain? I think the 750Ti OC would be the smarter choice.. unless I were going to SLI, then, yes, 2x 660's for sure considering the 750's can't be SLI'd.

[Korgoth]

God the GPU industry has gone to shit. Thats the progress we get in a year now. 2 years of stagnation. Same architecture used in their Tesla product in 2012! Now its Titan Black and barely an uptick. Hopefully they push out high end Maxwell sometime this year.

[Toffie]

Up front cost of 200 bones. Higher power req, noise is higher, temps are higher. For a 1-2 fps gain? I think the 750Ti OC would be the smarter choice.. unless I were going to SLI, then, yes, 2x 660's for sure considering the 750's can't be SLI'd.

I don't see how temperatures would make any difference for you, they both run great temeperatures.
The different isn't anywhere close to 1-2 fps :P That isn't possible. 660 is 23 % faster and that is with the old drivers, new drivers could gain another 10 %.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...750_Ti/25.html

I am not sure where you get 170 $ from, but I found this on newegg : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814487025

Pretty good deal considering EVGA.

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im really rather pleased with the 750ti's so-so performance considering i jsut spent £135 on a 660 in Jan - glad i dont have buyers remorse!

[Gravewyrm]

I don't see how temperatures would make any difference for you, they both run great temeperatures.
The different isn't anywhere close to 1-2 fps :P That isn't possible. 660 is 23 % faster and that is with the old drivers, new drivers could gain another 10 %.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...750_Ti/25.html

I am not sure where you get 170 $ from, but I found this on newegg : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814487025

Pretty good deal considering EVGA.

Scroll down the list of 750Ti's .. Its the last one ..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127783

MSI 750Ti OC

[Deleted]

Performance wise (fps) it's not super exciting (750ti) but honestly I think the card makes a lot of sense. Replacing the 650ti boost with a much lower power draw around the same price point, well done I'd say. Don't get me wrong raw performance increase is more exciting to most but this has potential and this is just start low end.