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    Quote Originally Posted by xylophone View Post
    I don't know who's a Nazi and who isn't anymore!

    Maybe I'M a Nazi!
    The word has lost a lot of meaning thanks to the Internet... It's why I'm against any insult, like n word, being banned. If it's not banned, people will use it so much, it will lose any meaning. Nazis, Hitler, Fascism are a great example of that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    Nazis without racism is no longer nazis, but are just right on the political spectrum. You are correct in saying Nazis without the racism aren't really Nazis. Which in turn, should mean you have nothing against what Rich said.

    Now, if you want to argue that Hitler's government's success during the build up to the war hinged on the racism, it's another topic entirely. That's an argument I'd like to hear. Because the foundation of Hitler's rise was so focused on blaming the west, how much of that success in unity brought on as a result, is debatable. I'd have to give it more time to think about that one...
    I have nothing against what Rich said... he is simply and utterly; "bloody" confusing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    The word has lost a lot of meaning thanks to the Internet... It's why I'm against any insult, like n word, being banned. If it's not banned, people will use it so much, it will lose any meaning. Nazis, Hitler, Fascism are a great example of that...
    I hate Nazism and Fascism ... but to be honest, using a political ideology as an insult is sort of ridiculous*.







    *Note, I may be guilty of doing the same and just not remember it. I am also not obligated in not doing so in the future.

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    the original thread stated "if germany and japan won the war, who would would win in another world war"

    not complicated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalian View Post
    I hate Nazism and Fascism ... but to be honest, using a political ideology as an insult is sort of ridiculous
    Dude, I've been called a Nazi on this forum and I'm Jewish. The word has lost all meaning. At least on the Internet... It's hard to get offended by it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalian View Post
    Yeah... pretty hard to support "non-fascist Nazis" when their goal is to defend civilization from my political ideology. :P
    what ideology was that Socialism? Your not a socialist
    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I'd never compare him to Hitler, Hitler was actually well educated, and by all accounts pretty intelligent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billly Jack View Post
    the original thread stated "if germany and japan won the war, who would would win in another world war"

    not complicated.
    That sounds like a Saladarin question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felya420 View Post
    Dude, I've been called a Nazi on this forum and I'm Jewish. The word has lost all meaning. At least on the Internet... It's hard to get offended by it...
    Don't they know that the correct term for a Nazi Jew is a Zionist? Bah! Do people not go to school?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tierbook View Post
    what ideology was that Socialism? Your not a socialist
    You're right. I'm not. I'm a Communist.

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    Don't they know that the correct term for a Nazi Jew is a Zionist? Bah! Do people not go to school?

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    You're right. I'm not. I'm a Communist.
    Bloody hell, and you knock the nazis? Why have you not given everything you own to the state? You accused me of being a nazi and only dealing in extremes so lets see you stick to your own guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Bloody hell, and you knock the nazis? Why have you not given everything you own to the state? You accused me of being a nazi and only dealing in extremes so lets see you stick to your own guns.
    You do realize that Stalinism isn't the only form of Communism, don't you?


    There's Leninism, Maoism*, Trotskyism, Marxism, ect. I believe in private property, just as many of the founders of the other popular Communist ideologies that I listed did.





    *I do not support Maoism in any way, shape or form.

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    And here I click on this thread hoping it was actually about Axis & Allies.
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalian View Post
    You do realize that Stalinism isn't the only form of Communism, don't you?


    There's Leninism, Maoism*, Trotskyism, Marxism, ect. I believe in private property, just as many of the founders of the other popular Communist ideologies that I listed did.





    *I do not support Maoism in any way, shape or form.
    Funny you say that and label me a nazi for saying they had a few good ideas, I like their uniforms but do not wish to join the fucking SS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Funny you say that and label me a nazi for saying they had a few good ideas, I like their uniforms but do not wish to join the fucking SS.
    1. You didn't just say a few good ideas. You said that they were the closest thing to a perfect government.
    2. You like their uniforms? Buhahahaha--- actually... they did. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Bloody hell, and you knock the nazis? Why have you not given everything you own to the state? You accused me of being a nazi and only dealing in extremes so lets see you stick to your own guns.
    Communism is not that bad if you don't count humans being selfish assholes (read:humans). I mean, if everyone on planet would relate to everyone like to their family members for example, communism would be great thing. But man can dream.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Funny you say that and label me a nazi for saying they had a few good ideas, I like their uniforms but do not wish to join the fucking SS.
    If you go by pre-WWII political definitions, the Democratic Party of the United States positions are close to those originally embraced National Socialists (before they were completely taken over by racist insanity wearing a Charlie Chaplin mustache), or at least their party platform and public rhetoric is. And the Republican party's stated ideology is more like that of the classical 'Liberals' - populist pro-business. (In practice, both U.S. parties support an oligarchic corporatist managed democracy.)

    By the modern era, all those old highly nuanced definitions have basically disappeared into an angry morass. Fascist, Nazi, Communist, Socialist, Liberal, Conservative, Terrorist... all the really 'mean' is "we don't like you".
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    What was the thread about? Specifically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charge me Doctor View Post
    Communism is not that bad if you don't count humans being selfish assholes (read:humans). I mean, if everyone on planet would relate to everyone like to their family members for example, communism would be great thing. But man can dream.
    This is where law enforcement comes in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    What was the thread about? Specifically?
    Rich's nazistolgia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalian View Post
    This is where law enforcement comes in.

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    Rich's nazistolgia.
    Yes, I remember it well......

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    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Yes, I remember it well......
    I know you did, grandpa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thalian View Post
    This is where law enforcement comes in.
    That's why USSR failed at Communism, Socialism leads to totalitarianism and Socialism is "first step" on the way to Communism. Unless people will start thinking about work as their hobby (not working to get money to live, but live to work and enjoy your life with job that you like), Communism will not work.
    Really, many peoples goal in life: work less and get more money.

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    He was an evader and his posts were removed, which included that thread.

    You can start the thread again, if you wish.

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