Paragon cleared in ~2,5hours this week, including 4 wipes on Thok.
Take that as you will-
Alternately I subbed in on a top 10 guild run and they made it to malk in 3 hours. Finishing the whole instance 14/14H in under 3 hours would be deserving of a feat of strength, 3.5-4 hours is more likely. To clear in under 3 a guild would have to be really trying.
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Last edited by fiestatastic; 2014-03-03 at 09:06 AM.
A full clear at around 4 hours is a good challenge/goal. It can be done quicker, maybe even closer to 3.5 hours if you push it, but that would be with little to no wipes and limited breaks/swapping etc.
If a guild wanted to go for a "speed run" with a single set group, it could be done much quicker, but that is not really the question in the OP.
OT: It takes us about three - four hours from starting to clear the raid, with our biggest time wasted being swapping people in and out on each boss, but as others have said the biggest speed killer would be wiping on a boss (or re-discussing tactics which you shouldn't need to if you raid with the same group.)
Last edited by Anzen; 2014-03-03 at 09:48 AM.
We made it past malkorok in a 3 hour raid this week. That's our best ever and included 2 personnel swops. I've little doubt we could improve on that but its not our aim to run through at breakneck pace.
Do your guilds not swap 3+ people every single fight, have multiple lesser geared alts, and have 2+ 13/14 buyers? Must be nice.
We clear through Nazgrim in 3 hours (and stay late to kill Malkorok sometimes since we like having 2 full days to progress on Siegecrafter before cleaning up Spoils/Thok heroic).
We have yet to make a clean 8/14H run with no wipes though (despite having killed everything through Thok more than 5 times) due to constant recruiting, people switching roles to accommodate new recruits (we have new people tanking Shamans since they need the boss for their main specs and the old tanks don't). We also have just terrible internet all around for some reason, with our disc, holy pal, hunter, warlock, and spriest all randomly dcing at least once or twice a week… Last week we had a 1% wipe on sha after our hpal dced at 96% and we tried to solo heal it instead of wiping it and waiting for her.
My experience (my guild is around 100th EU) is Raid starts on 21.00, ends on 0.00-0.15 when we kill blackfuse. We then kill Paragon and Garrosh on Thursday, if we're lucky we clear it in 30mins-1 hour, if we have new ppl or we sux @ garrosh we can spend the whole night
1. You don't really 1 shot everything.
2. You spend long unnecessary amounts of time discussing loot drops.
3. You take longs breaks at some point or another.
4. You spend alot of time swapping players in between kills.
5. You spend too much time lollygagging on trash.
Not that these are all horrible things but to say clearing in under 3 hours is impossible is false. Especially if you don't waste time.
Our best was clearing to Siegecrafter in 2.5 hours. And then we proceeded to wipe to a boss that we'd already killed before for the rest of the week...
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...arrod/advanced 14/14H SoO Fire Mage
Unless you are trialing new players, etc. you should be able to clear the place in 3 hours.
We're used to running very quick since we only raid 10 hours per night. In 3 hours we get to Paragons usually, or at least Siegecrafter. We don't always have every player needed on the first night, depending on who was rotated in so that's a huge factor as well. We go very quickly and do loot very fast, and that's a huge time waster right there.
We do 12/14hc in 4 hours with about 30mins of breaks in there. Then ppl are getting sleepy (we raid pretty late) and cba with Klaxxi anymore for the night.