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    Quote Originally Posted by D-angeL View Post
    Indeed. It is noncanon. Just like the population number is noncanon. All we have officially are vague numbers.

    However you would need to retcon. While it is true that nothing has stated about the population of halfelves officially or interrace couples within the Kingdom of Stormwind there is a logic problem added to it.

    If there were enough adult halfelves in Stormwind to be playable since forever (or at least since the timespan depictured in WoW) why didn’t we see some until the point they are introduced? You must not forget that the timeline in Azeroth is not faster or even than our timeline but it is slower. WoW started in the year 25 ADP. Currently we are in 30/31. That’s only 5-6 years.

    If they introduce a halfelf subrace for humans then they would need to retcon their past whereabouts. Because they would have needed to depicture halfelf kids or adults in the current game, because our characters are adult.
    The only reason we didn't see the playable was because it made Horde lore interesting dynamic and unexpected, made sense with their ties with Sylvanas and geographical location, and the game needed balance.

    The Silver Covenant is as numerous as the Bilgewater Goblin Cartel. No retcons are needed. Only an excuse to make this more than a recycled boring model taking the place of something more interesting really, which is debatable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yig View Post
    How is it a retcon when there are already high elves in the Alliance for ten years, the Silver Covenant is not a neutral group. Turalyon's wife is a high elf. His son is half high elf. Rhonin was neutral only for gameplay, his wife is a high elf. There are high elf NPCs in many Alliance examples. No retcon is needed. Only a model making this more than a token recycle with it's own identity.

    What needs to be rewritten or updated? What do you think the remaining high elves have been doing the last ten years in game?.
    Not Dying off. Which would be a massive favor to the story rather than being kept alive as a genre detritus.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yig View Post
    Blood Elves should really be covered in red tattoos in remembrance of their fallen, plus the fel features that will take generations to be bred out.
    Indeed. If they uglify the Blood Elves enough then they can add pristine High Elves to the Alliance like you want. That way the ugly elves will be Horde, fit your vision, and you get pretty elves. God forbid the Horde has a pretty option the Alliance cannot have.


    Quote Originally Posted by Yig View Post
    The High Elves are a foundation archetype of the Gold and Blue.
    That is your opinion. They were a group shanghaied by ancient treaty into participating in the second war at the start, only participated fully when the Horde attacked them head on and left as rapidly as possible once the threat passed. Overall, the GNOMES are more fundamental to the Alliance than the High Elves, given their technological contributions and the fact they actually want to be there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yig View Post
    The only reason we didn't see the playable was because it made Horde lore interesting dynamic and unexpected, made sense with their ties with Sylvanas and geographical location, and the game needed balance.
    This is probably true. It worked too. The small price we have had to pay has been the continuous complaining of a group of people whose tolkien stereotypes have short-circuited since.

    Quote Originally Posted by Yig View Post
    The Silver Covenant is as numerous as the Bilgewater Goblin Cartel. No retcons are needed. Only an excuse to make this more than a recycled boring model taking the place of something more interesting really, which is debatable.
    Ah, the oft quoted example that the Bilgewater Cartel was only a couple of Goblins on one boat, and so if they can be playable, then the Silver Covenant can be playable.

    That's rubbish.

    If you'd done a bit more research, you'd find Gallywix already had substantial operations in Azshara. That one boat out of Bilgewater Port on Kezan? It was the LAST boat. This is why comparing the High Elf remnant to the Bilgewater Cartel is rubbish.

    Damn this topic to hell, honestly.

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