Let's see here Death Knight's in PvE (frost/UH/Blood) I'm Mainly Blood/Frost Pve & UH/Frost for PvP)
Blood: Sure we Suck at Mobility (that why Disc priest give's us Feather's/Body and Soul 60% run speed) and it's a must for DA/DG after! (Sure we cant Charge/Leap/Blink)
Frost: Mobility PvP-Target's get away? (HOW AND WHY!?!?!?) *Let me guess you waste DG?* Ok I've Never had a Problem with Mage's, Locks, HUNTARDS! or Priests.
My Reasons? (Mage fights? Ok what happens when you DG a mage? they either Blink or Ice block right? (Ur DG is useless and they are far away Correct?)
ok, you don't DG as an opener Without a Macro/Chillblains (first HB, And then ur DG macro!*/Cast DG /Cast CoI /cast DC (Stole Blink lawlz!)
same with other classes super easy! lol
UH?: Pet leap/Stuns? pet Charge/Stun? DG? Chains(4sec root with Chill Blains talent?) etc.
All around I don't see the problem? (some people just need to look up some Macro's or Reroll and Stop QQ'ing and getting DK's nerfed (Blizz need's to leave us ALONE!)
In my Personal Opinion: DA should be replaced and be a passive ability and put something else there. But that's just a Blah!
For PvE, i'd love a glyph that reverses death grip. So instead of pulling the target to me, i'll pull myself to the target.
Make chilblains baseline for Frost DKs and allow us to choose between death's advance, asphyxiate, and a third option. I'd be pretty happy with that for PvP.
Either that or remove a few of the billion and four snare/slow removal and immunity effects that many classes have on fairly short CDs...
As for a PvE gap closer, perhaps make it so Death grip could increase your run speed for a few seconds if you use it on an enemy that's permanently immune to Death grip's movement effect.
Give deathknight undead mage pet
Chillblains should not be baseline. Snares are completely out of control now; every spec has them and most are applied passively. Might as well just slow everyone by 50% the second the PVP flag comes on.
Same goes for run speed increases. Everyone thinks they need them, and bitches when they don't have them. The total homogenization of PVP is ruining it in my opinion. Too many snares, too many roots, too many stuns, too many incapacitates, too many disarms, silences, etc. This proliferation of "utility" spells just reduces the importance of them and dumbs down the game so much because strategically avoiding/interrupting/preventing them doesn't matter; you will just be hit with another version one second later.
And in PVE, utility means exactly squat if your DPS is good. If DPS isn't good then a spec may need more utility spells to stay raid viable, but again that is a problem with shitty DPS and not really shitty utility.
Last edited by Skarssen; 2014-03-03 at 04:17 PM.
Sure, there are slows and snares aplenty in PvP, but DKs are NOT huge perpetrators of their mass existence.
Just re rolled to dk and I have no problem with applying pressure from a distance. Uh dk is almost too good at applying pressure to casters. They definitely don't have a problem with mobility imo.
The fact that we can arrive at a target eventually by holding w doesn't mean that a lack of mobility isn't a problem.
I really think other classes are just too mobile. It's an arms race between classes like Monk, Mage, Warrior and Hunter. For each new stun or gap closer/opener it feels like the others need and get new tools to stay competitive. DKs already have a lot of Cc immunities and death grip is innately a strong ability because it brings the enemy to you that it's hard to give us more; especially because of how fast a DK can drop someone if they a clean window to tee off.
I hope WoD goes a long way in trimming some of the insane mobility and snares/snare breakers even if it means we lose a little bit of our anti-CC ability. That'll help us in the long run and probably make us less frustrating to play. Really I think we are at a good level, the other classes need toned down. Not us brought up.
My style is rich, dope, phat; in which we'll bake a cake today that looks rich.
I can't speak for other specs but UH is more than fine. Damage and control are very strong.
I really have no trouble sealing kills on proper casters as a DK. Hell, Death Knights practically eat Warlocks for breakfast.
It's hunters with their insane mobility, control, AND damage AND CC AND immunity effects AND a CD reset that need the "toning down."