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    How many tries did your guild need to down SoO HC bosses?

    Just wondering, since we startet SoO heroic few weeks ago. How many tries did your guild need to down SoO HC bosses?

    We're currently 4/14 Hc and are like:

    Immerseus ~ 30 tries
    Protectors ~ 55 tries
    Norushen ~ idk
    Galakras ~ 40 tries

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    High Overlord Mogai's Avatar
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    only killed norushen on HC so far. but he can't have taken more than 7 or 8 tries for my guild

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    0 for 6 on Immerseus; we just finished normal two weeks ago, and our main tank quit until WoD, so we actually need to retool a bit. Not sure how far we'll get, not everyone is committed to the learning curve heroics require.

    I will say this; just doing Immerseus on H gives me a new-found respect for guilds that killed him on Heroic a week in; we probably average somewhere in the high 550's for gear level as a group, and what could the top end guilds have been at...maybe high 540's? Impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by taishar68 View Post
    I will say this; just doing Immerseus on H gives me a new-found respect for guilds that killed him on Heroic a week in; we probably average somewhere in the high 550's for gear level as a group, and what could the top end guilds have been at...maybe high 540's? Impressive.
    Actually no. 556 for Method in 25s and 553 for Paragon in 10s for their respective first kills. Not sure if there's also the heroic items they got from the bosses, but all in all the top guilds did immerseus hc with gear a bit past 550.

    Not saying that what they are able to do isn't impressive, but immerseus isn't it. The gear level they do the harder bosses (siege+) is impressive with the gear they had at the time.

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    anywhere form 1 to 100 we 1 shot imersus hc and it too us about 50 to get shammies right were about there on malkorok hc also

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    The only one I can remember for sure is Norushen, others are just estimates.

    Immerseus: ~10
    Fallen Protectors: ~10
    Norushen: 3
    Sha of Pride: ~15
    Galakras: ~5
    Iron Juggernaut: ~15
    Kor'kron Dark Shaman: ~10
    General Nazgrim: ~15
    Malkorok: ~75
    Spoils of Pandaria: ~25
    Thok the Bloodthirsty: ~75
    Siegecrafter Blackfuse: ~300
    Paragons of the Klaxxi: ~75
    Garrosh Hellscream: In the 100s atm, no kill yet.

    Some of these might be totally wrong, but it was ages ago we got the first 10 kills, we had a quite long Xmas break and I have the memory of a 95y old.
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    1-5 shot everything up to Dark shamans I believe. (Including nazgrim)

    Then on average about 20-50 everything up to Thok which took I think 70. Then I stopped raiding.
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    We cleared a while ago but it's worth putting up for reference to gouge difficulty (this is 25 man heroic).

    Immerseus - 1 Attempt
    Fallen Protectors - 5 Attempts
    Norushen - 1 Attempt
    Sha of Pride - 9 Attempts
    Galakras - 1 Attempt
    Iron Juggernaut - 1 Attempt
    Dark Shaman - 4 Attempts
    General Nazgrim - 6 Attempts
    Malkorok - 25 Attempts
    Spoils of Pandaria - 35 Attempts
    Thok - 41 Attempts
    Siegecrafter Blackfuse - ~ 200 Attempts
    Paragons of the Klaxxi - ~ 120 Attempts
    Garrosh - ~ 200 Attempts

    To be noted, because we cleared pretty fast, the majority of these kills we were significantly undergeared (we were 564 when we killed Siegecrafter HC for the first time before all the nerfs.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muoric View Post
    Actually no. 556 for Method in 25s and 553 for Paragon in 10s for their respective first kills. Not sure if there's also the heroic items they got from the bosses, but all in all the top guilds did immerseus hc with gear a bit past 550.

    Not saying that what they are able to do isn't impressive, but immerseus isn't it. The gear level they do the harder bosses (siege+) is impressive with the gear they had at the time.
    Yeah, I forgot that they were all at around 549 to start in most cases. As you said, still impressive, especially on the later bosses.
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    Immerseus: 2
    Fallen Protectors: 3
    Norushen: 5-ish
    Sha: 4
    Galakras: 8-ish
    Juggernaut: 5
    Dark Shaman: 33 with the stack tactic. Looking back that was a terrible decision and splitting the bosses would've saved us hours
    Nazgrim: 6-ish
    Malkorok: Somewhere in the 30s
    Spoils: 30-45
    Thok: 68
    Siegecrafter: 236
    Paragons: 159
    Garrosh: 425

    All that totaled to around 170 hours of raiding over ~3½ weeks.

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    Jeez some of you guys went through the first few with ease.

    My guild started Heroic this past reset, skipped Immerseus (struggled to adapt to the fight...) and went for Fallen Protectors. Downed last night after 35 attempts. Will be attempting Norushen this evening.
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    151 thok pre-nerf
    160 Blackfuse pos-nerf (but only 15 tries was pos-nerf)
    155 Paragons pos-nerf

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    No PTR testing.

    First week of tier:
    Immerseus: 2
    Protectors: 9
    Norushen: 12 (1 shot after we switched to the burn method)
    Galakras: 4
    Iron Juggernaut: 6

    Week 2
    Sha of Pride: 5
    Shamans: 8
    Nazgrim: 2
    Malkorok: 38

    Week 3
    Spoils: 54

    Week 4
    Thokk: 37

    Week 6
    Siegecrafter: 127

    Week 8
    Paragons: 133

    Wee 11
    Garrosh: 192

    35 raid days/105ish hours

    Paragons was hands down the hardest fight. Over 50% of our Garrosh wipes were lack of DPS from lack of gear. Trying to push P3 in 1 whirl with <570 ilvl is not easy.
    Last edited by Gliff; 2014-02-18 at 12:31 PM.

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    Immerseus: 3
    Fallen Protectors: 3
    Norushen: 2 with nuke tac. Some wipes after the changes tho.
    Sha: 10~
    Galakras: 1
    Juggernaut: 1
    Dark Shaman: 20~
    Nazgrim: 10~
    Malkorok: 40~
    Spoils: 40~
    Thok: 50~
    Siegecrafter: 130~
    Paragons: 160~
    Garrosh: 100~


    I remember us oneshotting somebosses and some we had alot of wipes on. J
    Klaxxi was absolutely the harder boss this tier.

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    Thok was about 150 pre nerf
    Blackfuse again about 150 Post nerf
    Paragons about 70 Post nerf
    Starting on Garrosh this upcoming week

    before this I cant begin to remember, we took a month off for Christmas and new years so everything before that is a blur lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muoric View Post
    Actually no. 556 for Method in 25s and 553 for Paragon in 10s for their respective first kills. Not sure if there's also the heroic items they got from the bosses, but all in all the top guilds did immerseus hc with gear a bit past 550.

    Not saying that what they are able to do isn't impressive, but immerseus isn't it. The gear level they do the harder bosses (siege+) is impressive with the gear they had at the time.
    Not to mention the lack of max life due to the item level difference. The difference between 550 and 570 is about 100k life, and that really makes a very significant difference.
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    Siegecrafter ~220 - Date: 9/29
    Paragons ~150 Date: 10/8
    Garrosh ~120 Date: 10/18

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    We are a heroic 10 man group, recently cleared! All are rough estimates:

    Immerseus: 30
    Fallen Protectors: 15
    Norushen: 5
    Sha of Pride: 20
    Galakras: 5
    Iron Juggernaut: 15
    Dark Shamans: 13
    Nazgrim: 20
    Malkorak: 40
    Spoils: 30(not entirely sure)
    Thok: 70
    Siegecrafter: 140
    Paragons: 40
    Garrosh: 310
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lukazor View Post
    Jeez some of you guys went through the first few with ease.

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    cause first 8 are easy - and those who say about 1-10 tries/kill either play on cutting edge skill lv or were doin them 25 man

    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    Not to mention the lack of max life due to the item level difference. The difference between 550 and 570 is about 100k life, and that really makes a very significant difference.
    most of dmg this tier is spike dmg so no matter whether ur 570 or 550 if u fuck up mechanics ull die -_- (at least on first few bosses )
    people who have better skills just have way less random accident deaths then average causal Hc guild which leads to "lets wipe and redo fight from beggining"
    Last edited by kamuimac; 2014-02-18 at 12:48 PM.

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    10 man heroic, 3.5 hours, 4 days/week, no PTR testing, cleared ~1 week ago

    Immerseus: ~10
    Fallen Protectors: ~10
    Norushen: 3
    Sha of Pride: ~20
    Galakras: 17
    Iron Juggernaut: 12
    Dark Shamans: 8
    Nazgrim: ~20
    Malkorok: 80
    Spoils: ~40
    Thok: ~80
    Siegecrafter: 285
    Paragons: 65
    Garrosh: 365

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