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    Quote Originally Posted by Sthu View Post
    The last 100 years has been the bloodiest and sickest years in all human history.
    Really, really no.

    The Second World War is really the only event in the last 100 years that can be considered to be among the most terrible events in history (inb4 '9:11 was the worst event in human history'). Bear in mind our everyday life compared to what it would have been even 100 years ago. I have never got into a fight. I have never been seriously mistreated or wronged by anyone (presumably because our police force, justice system etc are more efficient than ever). And I know that I am unlikely to starve or become life-threatenigly sick in the next forty years. Am I the only one who can say all this? I seriously doubt it. And I seriously doubt that ANYONE would have been able to say it 100 years ago and much, much earlier.

    So I ask you, how can you possibly think that of the last 100 years?
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    Count your blessings, not your problems.

    If the people in these places that you find so "sad" to hear of can get up every day and continue on with their lives while actually having to FACE the conditions you find so depressing, I'm pretty sure that you can manage getting up with your air conditioning, potable water, electricity, plentiful food and stable government.

    There are hundreds of millions of people on this planet that would switch lives with you in an instant without a second thought.
    “Do not lose time on daily trivialities. Do not dwell on petty detail. For all of these things melt away and drift apart within the obscure traffic of time. Live well and live broadly. You are alive and living now. Now is the envy of all of the dead.” ~ Emily3, World of Tomorrow
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    Kaleredar is right...
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    You can stop reading forums and mainstream news. You'll be surprised how much happier you'll be
    This a thousand times!

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    as a person who lives in the mountains, it's not as worked up as it seems to be
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    Posted by someone on the internet, having shelter, food and a stable economy around him.

    What a sad, sad world you are living in.

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    The wilderness isn't for everyone. Far enough north you got terrible snow storms that knock out the heat and power and block roads for weeks at a time (bring a generator). Also there hunting season when you really shouldn't go out in something that is not an eye-bleedingly bright orange unless you want to risk accidentally getting shot. After all if there wasn't a genuine danger (or twelve) of dying a lot more people would move out there.

    Don't get me wrong if you want to live in the woods go for it... after you look into it thoroughly.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Sthu View Post
    The last 100 years has been the bloodiest and sickest years in all human history.
    Historical knowledge, you lack them.

    Violent crimes been in decline for the last few decades if we go even shorter terms. Hell even stuff like road kill accident are decreasing? Stop evaluating the common peoples every day life to what you see on the news and go outside yourself and educate yourself for the love of logic. Next time you visit a public execution where we stretch someone to death with ropes and horses call me or next time we put a bunch of people in an arena to get eaten by tigers for our enjoyment. I miss those most civilized times indeed, i miss all the sweet events, i must put up with those bloody and sick basketball games, what a freaking bore.
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    New Cap City seemed more entertaining than a virtual mountain...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralikon View Post
    It aint that bad dude. This is a great generation in a way, yeah you got all the terrorism and bullshit, but just think about how we live now. In the past there was almost always a huge war going on. There is peace between a lot of countries and we have the technology of the internet that has almost no limit to what you can do in creativity within it. I don't know, I think life is great, and not just because things in my life are going well. Eh, I suppose I'm bias.
    1991 gulf war , Somalia , Rwanda, Yugoslavia wars, Afganistan , iraq ,Syria , one on the virge of starting in the Ukraine that has great potential to spiral out of control. proxy wars in the name of the 'war on terror' worldwide , Afrika there is allways some shit going on ofc.
    We've seen more wars in this generation as most before us tbh. All we need is that one little spark and we got an other global war, pretty sure this generation will get theirs soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubalus View Post
    1991 gulf war , Somalia , Rwanda, Yugoslavia wars, Afganistan , iraq ,Syria , one on the virge of starting in the Ukraine that has great potential to spiral out of control. proxy wars in the name of the 'war on terror' worldwide , Afrika there is allways some shit going on ofc.
    We've seen more wars in this generation as most before us tbh. All we need is that one little spark and we got an other global war, pretty sure this generation will get theirs soon enough.
    No, this is wrong.

    You have listed a bunch of wars which occurred all over the world. These are wars with which we are familiar because the media is more advanced and more persistent than ever. Obviously we're going to be aware of these because we are the contemporaries. But I bet you anything that there are just as many - and I would be surprised if it wasn't more - minor wars occurring everywhere in every single decade of human history.

    The other thing to consider is that modern, developed countries are becoming more humane in warfare. Civilian casualties are kept to a minimum and we have actually developed weaponry which specialises in targeting important structures (such as military facilities) with minimal damage to the surrounding area.

    Compare and contrast the Crusades. Now THEY were bloody.

    Edit: just to prove my point, I went ahead and out of curiosity wikipedia'd wars in the last half century before 1990, and this is what came up:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_1945–89

    Now, I have probably heard of, maybe 3% of those conflicts. It just goes to show how much strife there has been over the whole of human history without us even being aware of it. So it's very presumptuous to assume that because we know about all the wars at the moment, this must be the worst time to be alive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anchorman View Post
    No, this is wrong.


    The other thing to consider is that modern, developed countries are becoming more humane in warfare. Civilian casualties are kept to a minimum and we have actually developed weaponry which specialises in targeting important structures (such as military facilities) with minimal damage to the surrounding area.
    tell that to the + 134,000 civilians killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, or the families of the civilians killed in the 'highly accurate' drone strikes .
    Only difference sofar is that we're not carpet bombing or nuking major cities anymore (for now allthough both the bombings of Bagdad and Kabul came close with shittons of 'smart' bombs missing their targets as their miss rate is pretty damn high actually).
    Btw , warfare is never humane , quite the opposite so that statement is laughable tbh.
    Also, check this list as well than : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...0%E2%80%932002 just to put the other list in perspective if we're counting all conflicts. I was just listing the bigger/ well known ones actually which involved the western societies in some form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubalus View Post
    tell that to the + 134,000 civilians killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, or the families of the civilians killed in the 'highly accurate' drone strikes .
    Only difference sofar is that we're not carpet bombing or nuking major cities anymore (for now allthough both the bombings of Bagdad and Kabul came close with shittons of 'smart' bombs missing their targets).
    Btw , warfare is never humane , quite the opposite so that statement is laughable tbh.
    Also, check this list as well than : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...0%E2%80%932002 just to put the other list in perspective if we're counting all conflicts. I was just listing the bigger/ well known ones actually which involved the western societies in some form.
    In that case, I was mistaken about the last 50 years. But it's still madness to claim that this decade/century/whatever is plagued by war more than any other in history.

    And I strongly dispute your claim about warfare and humanity. The statement 'warfare is never humane' is downright lazy and narrow-minded. I did not say it was completely humane, what I said was that we are MORE humane now than we have been in the past. Which is certainly true.

    And honestly, 134,000 civilian deaths in 8-10 years of conflict is nothing. Compare 6.6 million in WWI, and 2.7 million in the Korean War. Obviously WWII doesn't bear thinking about.

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    Stop watching the news...

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    Well for something to live something or somethings have to die you don't get anything for nothing. Money doesn't spring from nowhere someone somewhere is paying for it and everything gets paid back in the end, everything. Too much positivity can only end in a big crash affecting just about everyone. If you don't want to contribute don't have children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twoddle View Post
    Well for something to live something or somethings have to die you don't get anything for nothing. Money doesn't spring from nowhere someone somewhere is paying for it and everything gets paid back in the end, everything. Too much positivity can only end in a big crash affecting just about everyone. If you don't want to contribute don't have children.
    This is a truly bizarre view of the world.

    So, basically, if I have 3 children, I'm taking away the livelihood and possibly even the actual lives of 3 people elsewhere?

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    OP...

    Ignorance is bliss .

    Think about it .

    If you never watched tv
    Never had a smart phone to check ...news
    Never read a paper
    Never had anything to do with any media at all.

    How would you know the world is in a state of chaos? (Hot tip....it ALWAYS has been , pretty much since day one of the human species ...and even before that ...)

    We just get the "news" of tragic event this , bad guy that.. near instantly now.

    Before it took months or years for "news" to be carried around the globe.

    And no , I do not want to live in the mountains thanks.

    Lived in a tent for a few months and that was enough to cure me of wanting to "be one with nature".

    Bottom line , do not seek knowledge of humans unless you want a LOT of bad news.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Anchorman View Post
    This is a truly bizarre view of the world.

    So, basically, if I have 3 children, I'm taking away the livelihood and possibly even the actual lives of 3 people elsewhere?
    I didn't mean it like that.

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    If you're in vr anyway, why not do it in an urban apartment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anchorman View Post
    In that case, I was mistaken about the last 50 years. But it's still madness to claim that this decade/century/whatever is plagued by war more than any other in history.

    And I strongly dispute your claim about warfare and humanity. The statement 'warfare is never humane' is downright lazy and narrow-minded. I did not say it was completely humane, what I said was that we are MORE humane now than we have been in the past. Which is certainly true.

    And honestly, 134,000 civilian deaths in 8-10 years of conflict is nothing. Compare 6.6 million in WWI, and 2.7 million in the Korean War. Obviously WWII doesn't bear thinking about.
    world war, the name already says it , a way bigger conflict and as such more potential for civilian deaths, but yes there was much less consideration for civilians in those wars, i agree.
    But the civ deathtoll in iraq/afganistan is still more civilian deaths as the carpet firebombing of a major city did (dresden) and comparable to the deads by nuking Hiroshima (not counting after effects here), for just 2 small countries and those are the ones killed in direct violence, if we're gonna count other deaths as your numbers do like famine (korea war) , spanish flu (generaly atleast partly included with ww1 numbers, also other things like famine again ofc) the casualty number under civilians in iraq alone rises to +500k deaths allready since 2003 so depending on how you look and define casualties the numbers will vary greatly. But think we can agree it's to much in any case and any war I hope ^^

    As for humane lets look at the definition :
    humane
    1. characterized by tenderness, compassion, and sympathy for other beings, esp. for the suffering or distressed.
    War is neither of those things , it brings suffering and distress, there is no compassion, there is no sympathy and it sure as hell ain't tender and it involves the deliberate killing of other human beings what ever the reason, you can't get anymore inhumane as that imo. so how is that narrow minded ? It's the wrong word for anything to do with war, if anything you could probably use 'considerate warfare' still a stretch imo but what the hell if we need to define it. you can say you start a war out of humane consideration ofc but the war it self is never humane imo.
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    I'd imagine life would be even sadder once I remembered that everyone in that VR world isn't even real, and any relationships I create, are just ones that I've solely created because I created those people. I'm fairly confident that people who hullicinate others are actually happier than someone who willingly chooses to live in a world that doesn't exist, at least the less sane have ignorance.

    At least there are humans behind the computer screens.



    And everyone seems to be missing the part where he's saying he wants to go live in a virtual reality world, not just live up in a mountain and build a house and live alone. He wants to basically check out into his own pre-made world until he dies, because that would make him happiest. Like, I could be okay living up on a mountain alone in a little house, the extent of seeing people be when I have to make it to the closest and preferably smallest store to buy any essentials, but I don't think I could ever be okay with putting me in a world that I create so I could be happier, that in itself would make me sadder than what ever caused me to build/create said VR machine.

    To each his own though, some want to die, some want to go live in a fantasy world, and most want more than they have.

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