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    Quote Originally Posted by OldSnail View Post
    Now I can easily solo almost all old content for mount drops. What would happen after item squish? Will it become harder or impossible to solo bosses from 1 or 2 expansion behind current expansion?
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    Fact of the matter is no one really knows exactly how things will work. Blizz has conveyed their intentions, but not specifics. Until then, all we have is: Blizz wants the squish to change things as little as possible.
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  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Nivena View Post
    "If it takes you 5seconds to kill a Timeless Isle Gulp Frog, it will still take you 5 seconds to kill a Timeless Isle Gulp Frog." - Greg Street
    Nice, quote the guy who works on LoL.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by LickMeh View Post
    Exactly. Old mobs/bosses will be affected aswell
    The farming won't be affected, the content will. Read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Nice, quote the guy who works on LoL.
    He can't spread false information, I'l take his word any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Pearl View Post
    They said you get some kind of buff to help with old content.
    That's pretty funny. I can't believe for a second old content will be completely untouched, especially when they go out of their way to give you some kind of gimmicky buff upon entering the instance. That's a pretty clear tell-tale sign to me. If things remained "the same", why would that be remotely necessary? Because they felt like making soloing easier for everyone? Don't buy that. I'll believe things are still soloable when I see it. Until then I'll be skeptical, regardless of what the blues say.
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    I really don't know how many times they have to say it. Or how many different ways they can say it.



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    Also, from the Dev Watercooler last Thursday:

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    In order to bring things down to a more understandable level, we'll be reducing the scale of stats throughout the game and smoothing out those obsolete spikes, so that power scales linearly through questing content from levels 1 to 85. This applies to creatures, spells, abilities, consumables, gear . . . everything. And while that means your numbers for stats and damage are being reduced by a huge amount, the same goes for creatures' health and damage output. For example, a Fireball that previously hit a creature for 450,000 out of his 3,000,000 health (15% of its health) may now hit that same creature for 30,000 out of its 200,000 health (still 15% of its health).

  7. #47
    Dear lord, do people *STILL* not get the basic concept of the upcoming item squish?

    You would think that someone who knows how to browse this website (including register for an account and create a thread) by now would SURELY have read the gazillion posts from Blizzard about how this will work out...
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    There's always, ALWAYS a "huge uproar" about anything Blizz does, usually from people who either don't entirely understand the thing they're complaining about, or refuse to acknowledge that most players are perfectly okay with the current state of affairs. Whenever people complain that they don't listen to feedback it mostly means "they don't listen to ME ME ME".
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    Quote Originally Posted by RetRumm View Post
    No it means the day before 6.0 if it takes you 5s to kill a gulp frog, the next day once the squish is enabled it will still take you 5s to kill a gulp frog.
    What if you are a 87 trying to kill gulp frogs? If it takes you 20 seconds pre-squish to kill a gulp frog at lvl 87, will it still take you 20 seconds?

    I doubt it will. It might be faster, it might be slower.
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    How many times does Blizzard have to state whats going to happen with this.
    this thread should of been deleted right away

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    With the squish it will be even easier than it normally would if there was no squish.

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    It was mentioned that if adjusting health and damage numbers etc. isn't sufficient, they will add a scaling buff.

    It's not going to change materially. And you will be level 100 so it will be easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phan View Post
    How many times does Blizzard have to state whats going to happen with this.
    this thread should of been deleted right away
    Eggzactly.

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    It's 3rd grade math people. Holy Raptor Jesus, no one person can be this dumb. The information is everywhere, how can the OP and any person confused on the matter be so oblivious.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Pearl View Post
    They said you get some kind of buff to help with old content. I still find it funny people say the squish doesn't change anything.
    I still find it funny people think all old content occurs only in instances that can be affected by a buff.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Sul View Post
    People quote that line quite often but leave out a very important part --the words "At max level " -- so it may be slightly more difficult until we reach 100 ( look at and interpret the graphs that accompanied the item squish info and you can see why )
    Actually with the removal of hit/expertise I bet it won't be any different while level. I know from my experience those two stats are what make it hard since you don't always hit everything and you're not hit capped against bosses usually till max level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nivena View Post
    "If it takes you 5seconds to kill a Timeless Isle Gulp Frog, it will still take you 5 seconds to kill a Timeless Isle Gulp Frog." - Greg Street
    To make it simple:

    If it takes 5 seconds to kill Timeless Isle Gulp Frog at lvl 90 before squish, it will still take you 5 seconds to kill a Timeless Isle Gulp Frog at lvl 90 after squish.

    Better ?

    EDIT: Also everything is squished ... players, items, mobs, bosses ... etc
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  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Spraxle View Post
    Actually with the removal of hit/expertise I bet it won't be any different while level. I know from my experience those two stats are what make it hard since you don't always hit everything and you're not hit capped against bosses usually till max level.
    Not quite. All bosses are considered to be 3 levels higher than you if you're beyond the level cap that existed when they were released. However if you try to do something that is from a later expansion with a character not at the level cap for that expansion then they are treated as 3 levels higher than that expansion's level cap. To illustrate this: if a level 90 character attacks Chogall they need Hit and Expertise for a level 93 creature to remove special attacks from getting parried; however if a level 80 character attacks Chogall they need Hit and Expertise for a level 88 creature to remove special attacks from being parried.

  17. #57
    I would ask if people bother to read any of the blue posts on the front page, but I suppose that is made obvious.

    From the blog, also featured on the front page.

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

    It's important to understand that this isn’t a nerf—in effect, you’ll still be just as powerful, but the numbers that you see will be easier to comprehend. This also won’t reduce your ability to solo old content. In fact, to provide some additional peace of mind, we're implementing further scaling of your power against lower-level targets so that earlier content will be even more accessible than it is now.
    Therefore no, you will not have it more difficult, in fact you may even have it easier.

    Quote Originally Posted by Xeraxis View Post
    I still find it funny people think all old content occurs only in instances that can be affected by a buff.
    I find it funny when people get the answer they asked for, but still ignore it.
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  18. #58
    Is this really a question? Of course Blizzard is tuning the health of mobs. How the fuck do you expect people to level if our power is reduced 90% while Wrath/Cata/MoP mobs keep the same health.
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    Everyone hated BC, everyone hated Wrath, everyone hated Cata and everyone will hate MoP. MoP will become the new worst expansion and Al'akir or BoT will become the new "last good raid" or something stupid like that.
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    You're now blocked. Told you I was done with you. You want to pick fights over minute details as if this is the fucking presidential debate on a gaming forum.
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  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    I find it funny when people get the answer they asked for, but still ignore it.
    I find it funny when someone doesn't ask a question yet someone thinks they can answer it somehow even though they can't prove it because they haven't seen it yet themselves. Of course what do you expect these days people will believe whatever they are fed.

  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    It will become easier.....
    Why easier?
    Because the squish has zero impact on the overall mechanics. It's just number crunching. We do less damage, targets have less health, bringing it down to exactly what we have now too. You need 10 hits with 100k right now to kill a 1mio health mob. You'll need 10 hits with 10k to kill the mob which has then 100k health.
    And since you leveled from 90 to 100 and are farming old content, you hopelessly overpower the old content which you farm right now, even more.
    Tempest Keep mob will fall over as trivial then, like Molten Core mob falls over now.
    OMG no stop asking these useless questions. Nothing will be affected. It's all relative ffs.
    Wrong. Blizzard is going to even the gear curve, not just cut 90% of all stats on gear. It's an important difference.
    However it won't impact your ability to solo content, blizzard has stated.

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