Last edited by Porkus; 2014-03-10 at 03:31 PM.
Obviously I am not making a professional diagnosis, however you don't need to be a professional to spot textbook sociopathic behavior.
The only fun in WPVP i have in Vanilla.It was massive 24/7 ppl from your faction comes to help ya when you ask in channels which lead to bigger fighting eachothers groups
Now is just bored you will encounter a group of ppl who will smash you down and chance to get help from your faction ppl is close to zero no mater what balance realm have
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Never, ever forget the GIFT.
It reflects that you are someone who has extremely "flexible" morals, a person who only avoids doing wrong as long as doing wrong has immediate consequences. As soon as there are no immediate consequences to your actions you're acting in a way that would be utterly unacceptable in daily life and I think that speaks volumes about the kind of person you are. The fact that you think it's MORE justifiable to act in an antisocial manner in a activity designed for fun and leisure also speaks volumes about the kind of person you are.Again, it's a GAME. Someone's actions (not verbal) in a game in no way reflects who they are as a person IRL.
I know it's pretty obvious, I just wanted to see if I could get them to admit this themselves.Uh, that's pretty obvious. It's called 'lack of consequences'. As it's not happening in the real world where everyone can see your behavior, most especially the one on the recieving end, and people will never know that KillaDeffGawd187 is really Paul Grady, mild-mannered office drone, then you get away with it.
I would have to disagree with this. Again it follows the rather unsavory line of thinking that being antisocial is acceptable as long as there are no direct consequences, by which I mean consequences that affect YOU. It's a very selfish line of thinking and it's quite depressing that it seems to have become the modus operandi of a lot of people who play online games today.And IMO nothing of any real import was lost or harmed. Long as Paul Grady never gets it in his head to start imitating this behavior in his RL, all is fine and good.
It's a game in which you can find pleasure in the suffering of others, that you yourself are causing, without real world consequences
Breaking news..shocking revelation.. People hiding out in video games fulfill their fantasies of being a criminal and getting away with it!
Ban video games
You have proven nothing other than how deep you are willing to bury your head in the sand while repeating the mantra "it's just a game".I gank, camp, and go into groups on TI killing people for my coins. I'm not what you described above, so your point has been proven wrong.
I sit down to play a game of Monopoly with a group of people. Half way into the game I start flicking other player's pieces off the board, because it's "fun". They ask me to stop, I tell them to stop complaining because it's "Just a game". They tell me I'm being antisocial, I tell them that I'm having fun and no one is forcing them to play with me. They call me an arsehole but I tell them the way I act while playing Monopoly doesn't reflect how I act in the rest of my daily life. They all stand up and walk away and I congratulate myself on another successful game of Monopoly.
Is this something you would do? After all Monopoly is just a game. If not, is it because you feel it's fundamentally wrong to act that way, or is it because you simply wouldn't want to face the direct consequences of your actions?
See how fucking stupid that sounds?
Edit: Also, pvp is part of the game in WoW. It is focused around it. Flicking people's pieces off the board in Monopoly is not part of the game. If it were, then we could maybe use your scenario (however stupid it is).
Porkus if how we act inside fantasy worlds is an extension of our true selves.. why haven't the majority of us that can tell the difference between fantasy and reality done any of this shit IRL?
That's the question I'm asking. What is stopping people from being antisocial in "real life"? Is it because they have a belief that acting that way is fundamentally wrong and unacceptable, or is it because there are more immediate consequences for doing so? If the answer is that only consequences prevent their actions then that's quite disturbing. If they know that acting a certain way is fundamentally wrong, then why do they still do it online? It seems Winter Blossom doesn't want to answer this question, possibly because s/he does not like the answer?Porkus if how we act inside fantasy worlds is an extension of our true selves.. why haven't the majority of us that can tell the difference between fantasy and reality done any of this shit IRL?
Also while WoW may be a "fantasy" world it is inhabited by "real" people.
So is that how you view Monopoly? Do you often view "competitive" games as opportunities to "fuck over" the other player? The game can certainly be played in an extremely aggressive cut-throat manner if you chose to, and technically there is nothing in the rules which says you can't flick other player's pieces off the board. Just as world PVP gives you the opportunity to grief players that are half your level and camp graveyards; it does not necessarily mean these things are the GOAL of world PVP.In the game of monopoly, your goal is to fuck over your friends so you can control the board and get their money.
Porkus the answer is and will always be that this hobby is used as an escape from "reality"
We know right from wrong in our real lives, but when you're using something as a means of escape, the same rules don't apply? IDK if you're going to get the answer you're looking for on here
So wait, playing the game the way it was designed makes me a social path a puts my real life morals into question? Last I checked, I was told in game that the oposing faction was the enemy, and that I'm supposed to kill them. Last I checked, the game itself told me that killing people on TI was part of the lore (becoming a fireguy champion).
So people playing the game the way it was designed makes them bad people irl?
Guess what guys (even you PvE guys)? The game tells you that you're at war with each other, hence, you're only playing correctly if you're ganking and camping each other. To quote Garrosh.....SPLILL THEIR BLOOD
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Does the game tell you to gank and corpse camp or is that just how you have personally decided to interpret open world PVP? I don't recall the game ever encouraging me to fly to low level areas and harass level 10s with my level 90 for example. I think there is a pretty significant difference between the game encouraging me to do something, and the game not discouraging me from doing something. You are of the opinion that ganking, corpse camping etc. is how world PVP is meant to be played, do you think the developers would agree with you on that? Do you think they'd agree that griefing players is the objective of world PVP or do you think they'd say that it's an unfortunate byproduct of an imperfect system?The game tells you that you're at war with each other, hence, you're only playing correctly if you're ganking and camping each other.