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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Content goes to waste, well - we all played the shit out of Classic for 2 years, the shit out of TBC for two years, the shit out of WotLK for 2 years. Oh wait, did I say "WotLK" Was that the xpac where they dared to re-introduce Naxx because it had beautiful art and lots of work gone into it and only a handful of guilds ever went there?

    Wasn't that decision not the origin of "Look they are lazy, they re-use old content"?
    Naxx was the same, it was just used again. They didn't update the art or the bosses just brought it up to 80 and modified some mechanics (outside of the no deaths achievement it was extremely easy as well and got old fast because there was virtually no challenge). I think really only just recolored the tier armor. I don't think Naxx is a great example. I believe the OP wants things like an updated city, not for them to reuse the same exact raid again every expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baracuda View Post
    If Silvermoon, the most boring city, and Dalaran, which is only special because it's flying, is Blizzard trying then... I don't want them to.
    Why is silvermoon boring? Only reason i could think is if you hate blood elves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pkm View Post
    Why is silvermoon boring? Only reason i could think is if you hate blood elves.
    More filler space than anyone other city.
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    Gilneas is a good example on a city that should be done more off.
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  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by pkm View Post
    Silvermoon and Dalaran are the most polished and beautiful cities in the game. Dalaran still has a few people being a neutral city and all as well as a major questing area but silvermoon is just a ghost town
    Players let them go to waste citing convenience as an excuse all the time. My characters sit in their racial home city. My hearths are to the cities in Pandaria, but I log them out in their respective cities most of the time. I have no issues with long flights from one city to another, or even waiting on a zep or boat or tram to get to Org/SW. But that is me, and I am unlike many in that regard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zolok2.0 View Post
    Whatever you do, don't say this on the wow forums! The devs will respond and say "Oh if we had to redo silvermoon you'd lose a WHOLE raid tier!".


    "WHOLE raid tier...."

    "WHOLE raid tier...."

    "WHOLE raid tier...."


    I wouldn't mind if they gave us a real answer, but don't lie to my face please.
    You could do a little search or reading on the blue tracker to find the answer you are looking for. They say that to give you an idea of how much time and resources is required for some features players want. The time it would take to redo the BE and Draenei starting areas so you could fly, for example, would be so tremendous it would take the same amount to redo one zone as it does to create a whole raid tier. They are not saying it as a threatening choice, "new Silvermoon or new raid tier."

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Content goes to waste, well - we all played the shit out of Classic for 2 years, the shit out of TBC for two years, the shit out of WotLK for 2 years. Oh wait, did I say "WotLK" Was that the xpac where they dared to re-introduce Naxx because it had beautiful art and lots of work gone into it and only a handful of guilds ever went there?

    Wasn't that decision not the origin of "Look they are lazy, they re-use old content"?

    People complain they are lazy for using the same animation skeletons. For re-imagining ZA and Scholo and Scarlet monastery. For doing scenarios in artwork and places that was seen in the world while questing.

    Are you guys SURE you want to stay in existing artwork year after year after year? I was under the impression that people are ready to move on from Pandaria - yet, that will mean this place will "go to waste"

    I'm pretty sure we're totally fine with moving on from content that has been played in exhaustively for 2 years. What I don't understand however is how sometimes we seem shoehorned into specific places. For example, why do I HAVE to be in Stormwind and not IF to access vital parts of my gameplay?
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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Wesneed View Post
    Orgrimmar/Stormwind just has way too many benefits.
    Aside from brawler's guild and Earthshrine/MoP portal the cities you mentioned have no other benefits. Every city offers the same to all players but people think like sheep and just stay where most people do.

    Come to think of it, only alliance really switched from Ironforge to Stormwind once the portals started opening. Horde has always been Orgrimmar heavy because the connection between cities was very bad back in the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wacomman View Post
    Aside from brawler's guild and Earthshrine/MoP portal the cities you mentioned have no other benefits. Every city offers the same to all players but people think like sheep and just stay where most people do.
    The portals are pretty major, considering they take you to the current content. But you also forgot the ethereal vendors, which are only found on Stormwind, Orgrimmar, and the Shrines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zolok2.0 View Post
    Whatever you do, don't say this on the wow forums! The devs will respond and say "Oh if we had to redo silvermoon you'd lose a WHOLE raid tier!".

    "WHOLE raid tier...."

    "WHOLE raid tier...."

    "WHOLE raid tier...."


    I wouldn't mind if they gave us a real answer, but don't lie to my face please.
    The Art assets that would have to be created in order to make Eversong Woods/Ghostlands/Silvermoon and Azuremyst/Bloodmyst/Exodar flight accessible would probably rival that of a raid tiers worth of art assets, so yeah. It just wouldn't be worth the resources for something that <1% of players would probably notice.



    They would have to rebuild an entire city, it would take an immense amount of resources for little to no gain other than making a few completionists say "fucking finally".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Gilneas is a good example on a city that should be done more off.
    Why? It is seriously a waste. No one would go there. It's not near anything. People will stick to what they like. Stormwind and Org. Not even IF gets the love from players that it used to.

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    Buh, Darnassus is really beautiful and quiet, it's a pity it's so far away and has awkward access points.

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    They could get some traffic in the neglected cities by adding current levelcap dailies to all of them. What do they offer that is current content? once you've finished all the cooking/fishing dailies in the area there's nothing. the have a portal to blasted lands. portals to cataclysm zones could have been in all cities, portals to jadeforest could have been in all cities

    give people a reason to want to be there, current content rewards. give players an incentive

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    I personally really like Darnassus. So nice there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winter Blossom View Post
    I personally really like Darnassus. So nice there.
    Me too, if only the boat to SW didn't take ages to come though... since, unfortunately, there's no portals, transmog, special etheral bank, reforging and a bunch of other things in Darnassus.

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    Blizz could probably implement something similar to D3's bounty system in WoW. There could be select world bosses and/or dungeons located througout Azeroth/Outlands/Northrend etc. The rewards wouldn't have to be substantial, maybe a bit vanity, but it could provide something else for guilds and players to do.

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    It's the players letting it go to waste tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det View Post
    Content goes to waste, well - we all played the shit out of Classic for 2 years, the shit out of TBC for two years, the shit out of WotLK for 2 years. Oh wait, did I say "WotLK" Was that the xpac where they dared to re-introduce Naxx because it had beautiful art and lots of work gone into it and only a handful of guilds ever went there?

    Wasn't that decision not the origin of "Look they are lazy, they re-use old content"?

    People complain they are lazy for using the same animation skeletons. For re-imagining ZA and Scholo and Scarlet monastery. For doing scenarios in artwork and places that was seen in the world while questing.

    Are you guys SURE you want to stay in existing artwork year after year after year? I was under the impression that people are ready to move on from Pandaria - yet, that will mean this place will "go to waste"
    Well said, sir.

  18. #38
    Did you guys not read the blue post? "we COULD add portals to other cities, but it would be at the cost of 3 raid tiers and no new night elf character models"

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    This is what Silvermoon looks like from the air.

    All of the blue areas are giant gaping holes in the ground that aren't programmed into the game.

    Blizzard would need to COMPLETELY remodel Silvermoon for flying for very little benefit (and this is coming at a time when people are blaming flying mounts for everything wrong in WoW no less.) And moreover, there's REALLY no reason to go there, even if they added portals. It's ridiculously far away from everything.
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    Would easily be solved by adding portals to all cities or removing them altogether.

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