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    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    "Until you are ready to talk about it, its doing you guys a disservice talking about half of the big picture."

    DING DING DING DING!

    If they would learn to keep their damn mouth shut this crap wouldn't happen.
    Yeah, because people like you wouldn't find something else to complain about everyday.

    There are people who post regularly on this forum trashing the game who haven't played in over three years, if they are that obsessed with hating everything blizzard, they will find something to whine about. Actually, how about this one: "Hey Blizzard, how come you don't keep us up to date with what you are thinking about? Why so quiet all the time?" Oh wait, that's what everyone used to complain about back in Vanilla, the lack of transparency and not keeping the player base informed.

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    50% of stock market is done by automated softwares that monitor stuff like google trends and twitter activity, so there is financial motive in creating drama and activity with half-assed information, expect it to be the norm going forward.

    Valor points come with the problem, that many players were doing content that gives the easiest valor instead of what they really wanted to do, got bored and quit after they got their valor gear.

    This quote got my interest
    our intent with Warlords is to offer more outside of raiding at max level . . . ideally it'll be compelling solo and dungeon content throughout the expansion for everyone
    It implies that they are atleast planning for additional 5 man dungeons throughout the expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siddown View Post
    Yeah, because people like you wouldn't find something else to complain about everyday.

    There are people who post regularly on this forum trashing the game who haven't played in over three years, if they are that obsessed with hating everything blizzard, they will find something to whine about. Actually, how about this one: "Hey Blizzard, how come you don't keep us up to date with what you are thinking about? Why so quiet all the time?" Oh wait, that's what everyone used to complain about back in Vanilla, the lack of transparency and not keeping the player base informed.
    They're still not keeping us informed. They're giving half information to troll. Look at what he said, that people have fun bitching about speculated information. They're doing it on purpose. They can keep us informed by waiting till they're ready to tell us all of it not vague crap.

    Oh hey guys, we're taking out the ability to hide your helmet and cloak.

    *2 months later*

    ...and replacing it with a closet feature that allows you customization to hide all pieces!

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    Well that was a bit disappointing but no surprise. Raid or die.

    I'm really burned out of raiding, i just can't stand it anymore. Too bad Blizzard seems to have abandoned anything else for it and can't come up with new ideas for the endgame.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    They're still not keeping us informed. They're giving half information to troll. Look at what he said, that people have fun bitching about speculated information. They're doing it on purpose. They can keep us informed by waiting till they're ready to tell us all of it not vague crap.

    Oh hey guys, we're taking out the ability to hide your helmet and cloak.

    *2 months later*

    ...and replacing it with a closet feature that allows you customization to hide all pieces!
    You would complain regardless, you know it, I know it and Blizzard knows it. You are the type of person who has developed an internet persona that you will adhere to no matter what Blizzard says. You probably feel it empowers you, when in reality it doesn't. Regardless, why would they care to change what they say based on someone like you, who represents a ridiculous small percentage of the player base?

    All of this information will be known before the expansion goes on sale, getting your panties in a twist because months before that they haven't spelled out every single detail of one tiny aspect of the game is just silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siddown View Post
    You would complain regardless, you know it, I know it and Blizzard knows it. You are the type of person who has developed an internet persona that you will adhere to no matter what Blizzard says. You probably feel it empowers you, when in reality it doesn't. Regardless, why would they care to change what they say based on someone like you, who represents a ridiculous small percentage of the player base?

    All of this information will be known before the expansion goes on sale, getting your panties in a twist because months before that they haven't spelled out every single detail of one tiny aspect of the game is just silly.
    I think you're having some reading comprehension issues. I'm arguing for them to shut up and stay silent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arvandor View Post
    "You're a World of Warcraft player, not casual or hardcore, or a raider or a non-raider. "

    what a joke..
    Wait, if I'm a World of Warcraft player, then you must be too. Why can't I group with you? We're both World of Warcraft players right? Tell Blizzard to let us group cross-faction already.

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    lol at the idea of them actually having QA other than ptr and players at this point.



    Quote Originally Posted by Yriel View Post
    Well that was a bit disappointing but no surprise. Raid or die.

    I'm really burned out of raiding, i just can't stand it anymore. Too bad Blizzard seems to have abandoned anything else for it and can't come up with new ideas for the endgame.
    Yeah the guy seems to think because they created the giant pile of troll poo that is LFR everyone wants to "raid".

    Seem to remember something about path of the titans once before they got really lazy
    8 year olds Dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowfeather View Post
    As much as I would disagree with Blizz that valor gear is simply *not* the same as bonus rolls (at least with Valor gear you're 100% certain of getting that piece that just won't drop for you), I'm happy that I won't have to take time out of my week to grind it up come WoD. I still shudder at spending 5-6 hours a week valor grinding in 5.0.
    You don't understand. You will be grinding to get coins for bonus rolls.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    I think you're having some reading comprehension issues. I'm arguing for them to shut up and stay silent.
    Yes, in this case you are...until they do just that, then you will complain about that too.

    I've just started playing MoP again, so I went months without visiting this site, yet in the few weeks I've been back the one thing I can count on is you will be in every thread getting angry about something. From accusing Blizzard to lying about subscription numbers, to yelling about racials, you are one of the angry breed that will get mad about something, no matter how trivial.

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    Who exactly lets this guy talk to the media. Here is the issue. Sure, dead forums suck. However, dead forums are better than forums with false information that will infuriate everyone. When people are looking forward to an expansion and all you release is bad news about that expansion then people stop looking forward to the expansion. Since MMOs are only truly as good as their latest expansion, when people stop looking forward to the expansion they start to wonder why they are playing. When people start to wonder why they are playing... THEY STOP PLAYING. So, you can choose between people cancelling subs or dead forums. I don't think it takes much logic to figure out what effects the bottom line more.

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    so if conquest was the only currency for pvp does that mean blizzard intends to allow BG goers to use conquest to purchase conquest gear without ever stepping foot into an arena or rated battelground?

    If so this would be quite a casual change, I wouldnt be opposed to it because with the direction the game is going might as well get to it and make it as accessible as possible.

    However if there was only one currency wouldnt that mean there would only be need for 1 set of gear? Unless you plan to reinstitute the old rating requirements on conquest gear and have lesser conquest gear available for Random Bg rewards.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Matter View Post
    Blizzards solution to poor RNG? Add some more RNG. Maybe it's just me but how is that a solution? At best it doubles your chances. If you are unlucky you will still get nothing.
    You don´t think doubling your chances of getting the item you want will improve things? I am guessing you won´t be happy until you have a 100% drop rate and can chose which item you get per boss kill.

    RNG boss drops are MUCH better and more fun then grinding currencies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    "Until you are ready to talk about it, its doing you guys a disservice talking about half of the big picture."

    DING DING DING DING!

    If they would learn to keep their damn mouth shut this crap wouldn't happen. Stop making vague half ass statements then coming back and saying, "we're not ready to talk about it" or "this unannounced feature will be a game changer but we can't say anything about it". Blizzard lately are like that annoying drama queen teenager always trying to start crap and then wondering why everyone is freaking out. How hard is it to wait and tell us everything about currencies instead of half ass statements that just cause sky is falling speculation threads?

    And that crap about posting guidance when those sky falling threads come up...HA! Point me to the guidance of all the one face orc threads please.
    Here is the problem, you are thinking of it only as the people crying. I am sure Blizzard accepts and dismisses that those comments are going to happen.

    What Blizzard actually WANTS is the honest debate that will happen when they announce something early. I am sure before they announce something, they have many meetings and the topic is debated. Then they make some comment and get a flurry of feedback from players... sure, some of it is just stupid people over-reacting.. but in all of those threads, there are level-headed people making valid points back and forth that probably mimic some of the things being debated in Blizzard´s meeting.

    kids are going to cry and ragequit if something is announced as a final decision or something that is being debated internally and announced early. But by announcing it early, the dev team does get valuable feedback, and like most of us on these forums, it takes about 3 seconds into someone´s post to realize they don´t have the brainpower to debate something intelligently, and those posts are skipped.

    it is like this thread and the people posting ´lol adding RNG to fix RNG´.. those people do not understand math, or game development and what makes loot fun. The devs could care less about hearing feedback from them. What they are looking for is the debate about how to add bonus coin rolls to make loot drops and progression more fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woofpup View Post
    Valor has other uses than buying gear. It's used to upgrade pets. If you remove it there will be a need to increase the drop rate of the Flawless stones. I just got my gear nice enough to have spare points to use for pets and was looking forward to doing that in WoD.
    I think you have a few ( ok many) facts wrong. First off, you use Justice Points to upgrade pets. And the stones you can buy with JP only upgrade your pets to uncommon. Flawless stones you get from fighting trainers and occasionally from wild pet battles, and those stones upgrade your pet to rare.

    Yes, justice points are used to upgrade pets, but they are almost pointless to buy because they do not upgrade your pet to rare. All the pets you get via quests and acheivements are already at least uncommon ( and thus don´t need the JP stone) and basically any pet you capture in the wild is very easy to get an uncommon version already. If you do get a difficult to get pet like Unborn Vakrye or Minifernal in less than uncommon quality, then it is pretty easy to get a flawless stone ( via pet battles) to upgrade them directly to rare. Also, doing pvp pet battles will get you a ton of the same stones that you can buy with JP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geish View Post
    50% of stock market is done by automated softwares that monitor stuff like google trends and twitter activity, so there is financial motive in creating drama and activity with half-assed information, expect it to be the norm going forward.
    LOL.. this is just one of those comments that makes you laugh. Really? 50% of stock trading is based on tweets?

    They aren´t creating drama.. they are preannouncing ideas they have that haven´t been finalized knowing that there are many smart people in those threads who are debating the issue. Yes, there are idiots who just randomly cry and ragequit.. just like there are idiots who create random stastics out of thin air as proof, but all in all, as I read the threads about VP, I see a lot or really good information.. and it is very easy to quickly ignore people who start out their posts by creating imaginary statistics. No need to read pas the first 10 words....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    I think you're having some reading comprehension issues. I'm arguing for them to shut up and stay silent.
    He is correct, and you are the one with comprehension issues. It doesn´t matter how finalized the information is, as soon as Blizzard announces it, people like you will cry about it. If it is already set-in-stone, then you will cry because they didn´t ask for feedback before implementing it.... if they announce it early then you will cry about it not being finalized before creating drama.

    Blizzard, like most people, just ignores your type of comments and listens to people who provide real feedback. If they announce something early, then ´other people´(not you) will possibly provide useful feedback that could influence a debate they are having internally.

    What it boils down to.. no matter when they announce something, you will cry, they will ignore. But at least announcing it early, they get some feedback from other people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Matter View Post
    You don't understand. You will be grinding to get coins for bonus rolls.
    If you ´grind´ to get coins for your bonus roll, then you are doing nothing else in the game except logging in to raid. They drop from anything and come from rewards for about 10 different things.

    OMG, I had to kill 10 mobs on timeless island.. why oh why.. poor me... does Blizzard make me grind so much...

    It is almost comical what people call a ´grind´ nowadays..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azrile View Post
    bunch of nonsense
    What part of shut up and stay silent until you are ready to announce it don't you understand? They said they only announced part of the currency issue and have a solution later that they'll tell us about. It has nothing to do with feedback, you can't give feedback on something you don't know. It won't be set in stone when they finally tell us what the solution will be. What you think they'll tell us a week before the expansion hits? Smarten up.

    They're not trying to start a discussion and get feedback they're trying to start drama and hype. All it does is cause speculation threads, guessing and sky is falling doom posts. And don't tell me what I'll cry about, you stick to what you're crying about.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Azrile View Post
    Y

    LOL.. this is just one of those comments that makes you laugh. Really? 50% of stock trading is based on tweets?

    You didn't quite understand what you read this time, but don't let that stop from educating yourself about it.

    http://business.time.com/2013/04/24/...-market-crash/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azrile View Post
    You don´t think doubling your chances of getting the item you want will improve things? I am guessing you won´t be happy until you have a 100% drop rate and can chose which item you get per boss kill.

    RNG boss drops are MUCH better and more fun then grinding currencies.
    Not if you are the poor idiot who killed 150 bosses in ICC and still couldn't get a 4 piece. It's typical, someone indicates the problems with a specific situation and people immediately go to the complete end of the spectrum ("I am guessing you won´t be happy until you have a 100% drop rate and can chose which item you get per boss kill."). RNG is flawed as a loot system. Yes it keeps people coming back but it also can really work against people..

    Quote Originally Posted by Azrile View Post
    If you ´grind´ to get coins for your bonus roll, then you are doing nothing else in the game except logging in to raid. They drop from anything and come from rewards for about 10 different things.

    OMG, I had to kill 10 mobs on timeless island.. why oh why.. poor me... does Blizzard make me grind so much...

    It is almost comical what people call a ´grind´ nowadays..
    Will be <> now. It's what will happen in the future.

  17. #37
    So here I am, out of mere boredom finally posting on MMO forums after years of lurking behind the scenes. Reason: Nothing to do in-game. Farmed Garrosh HM so many times, even our alts have gear now, and yet, we have about 5-6 more months of....... this? SoO has been out for too long now. PvP? No thanks, been there, done that, I strongly believe PvP died for me after the talent tree change.

    So, what is there to do? Unsubscribe, till next expansion.

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