Originally Posted by
ryklin
just go over what's killing you guys on each attempt to put stuff in perspective:
1. add tank (dk) dies to damage gets brezz then both die, make sure you're getting adds into the ironstar w/ typhoon or some other knockback, and that healers are healing tanks, and that tansk are using cds
2. add tank dies (warr), eats brezz, failure to heal through empowered whirl
3. see 1+ hunter stands in ironstar and basically LOL
4. IRONSTAR STRIKES AGAIN
5. garrosh tank dk this pull is standing in desecrate and pulling adds off the warrior and not getting many heals
6. pally stands in ironstar, eats brezz,whirls wipes raid
7. monk dies to eating desecrate, eats brezz, failure to heal through annihilates
part 2-
1. pally dies to whirl+dk tank diseases (monk healer, spriest, or pally himself should've dispelled, he also could've divine shielded, LoH'd or even divine protectioned), mind controls go bad, tank dies to garrosh+ desecrate, then mind controls go bad too
2. hunter eats annihilate and brezz, failure to heel through whirl
3. tank death dk) to lack of cd use and lack of heals+ whirl healing failure
4. see 1-1 dk death
5. mistweaver eats ironstar, hunter stands in desecrate, whirl wipes you 4 minutes of 9manning later
6. whirl healing failure
7. annihilate healing failure (or failure of tard hunter to stack for heals) eats brezz, wipe to whirl healing failure
remedies:
P1 tank deaths: have your shammy or somebody just spam chain lightning and pad their dps hard to get adds does so they don't get too many warsongs and kill tanks, and don't miss knockbacks into ironstars (P2 ones can be stopped by telling your tanks to GET THE FUCK OUT OF DESECRATE), tank deaths are part on the dk tank, not being the best at using cds and active mitigation and from lack of heals from healers (shared blame)
whirls: DO NOT STAND lN TH0SE PURPLE SWIRL1ES, THeY DO 20OK! also, use defensive cd's (shaman rage, barkskin, astral shift, temporal shield, maybe even ice block, disperse, deterrence if needed) and set up a rotation of healing/defensive cooldowns for each whirl (there are 3 whirls between each transition and you have a ton of cooldowns), whirl healing is your biggest issue other than tank healing imo, this shouldn't be challenging if you guys can kill thok, you definitely can put out the heels for it
whirl adds: be patient, move them, use taunts, even if you're a healer, if they ended up slowed or rooted, leave em for a bit and let em keep chasing you, they don't hit too hard
on the 2 specs I played this fight on:
healing overall- remind people to pop healthstones and personal defensive cds
call for healing cds, and do it earlier, rather than later, you've got tons to work with, try to have plan for them too, like
annihilates- healing tide (and remind people to stack, this shouldn't be a struggle to heal really)
whirl 1- NV+tranq, max hp shout
whirl 2- ancestral guidance, revival, devo aura
whrl 3- banner, NV, vamp embrace
I don't know what to say about tank healing other than top them off as often as possible
resto druid:
barkskin every whirl, ALL OF THEM bind it to something convenient like alt 1 or shift 1
use ironbark on tanks more, especially dk
make sure to use your 2p procs and your clear casting procs, a lot of them sat around unused (especially 2p, clearcasting usage may have just been ignored when not needed)
don't be afraid to spam regrowth on the tank if needed to keep him alive,or to single target bloom or whatever you have to do keep him up, and try to throw a regroth them once in a while rather than just hots
get more innervates in per fight, cast it the first time you hit about 210k mana and then on cooldown afterwards (70%), you usually do 1 per fight
it feels like you're conflicted over how to use SotF, just use it for tank healing unless a whirl is about to come
mistweaver:
diffuse magic on whirls 1 and 3, fort brew annihilates or whirl 2
TFT uplift a bit before EVERY whirl to get ReM on all of the raid (or at least 9) (he's just doing some)
he needs to use enveloping mists more, no wonder tanks are dying, all he does is uplift
why RJW? imo chi torpedo is the best for garrosh, even on 10, unless you want xuen's dps
he should either fistweave. or help heal tanks in some way more, in between aoe heeling events
I assume from lack of fist-weaving and surging that. hes not abusing his meta gem as well as he could be
make sure he healing sphere spams or even just throws a couple down once in a while in case a tank needs it to get up fAsT!