Possibly no flying throughout entire xpac.

[Sam the Wiser]

I'm cheering on all the WoW general forumers, if they cry hard enough I can fly again.

[Bapestar]

Then go read the answers the last time it was asked, dude.

Nobody dislikes flying, we just don't think the game needs it. Which it doesn't, obviously. WoD is the best expansion that the game has ever had, and no flying hasn't hurt it one bit.

It's not about disliking flying, it's about understanding that it's unnecessary, superfluous, disposable.


Like, look at it this way. If I order a breakfast sandwich with sausage, egg and cheese and the waitress looks at me and goes "What?! Why do you hate chocolate?"


Like, no. I don't hate chocolate. I just don't think a breakfast sandwich needs chocolate. Breakfast sandwiches are fine without chocolate.

Chocolate is fine.

It's great, actually. I love chocolate.

I just don't fucking need it on my breakfast sandwiches.

And I don't need flying in my Wow.

Get it, yet?

Blizzard does.

WoD is good but it is too early to call it the best expansion ever..however I don't disagree with you about flying. And just because Blizzard makes a decision doesn't mean they are right 100% of the time.

[diddle]

Then go read the answers the last time it was asked, dude.

Nobody dislikes flying, we just don't think the game needs it. Which it doesn't, obviously. WoD is the best expansion that the game has ever had, and no flying hasn't hurt it one bit.

It's not about disliking flying, it's about understanding that it's unnecessary, superfluous, disposable.


Like, look at it this way. If I order a breakfast sandwich with sausage, egg and cheese and the waitress looks at me and goes "What?! Why do you hate chocolate?"


Like, no. I don't hate chocolate. I just don't think a breakfast sandwich needs chocolate. Breakfast sandwiches are fine without chocolate.

Chocolate is fine.

It's great, actually. I love chocolate.

I just don't fucking need it on my breakfast sandwiches.

And I don't need flying in my Wow.

Get it, yet?

Blizzard does.

Then don't fly. It's an option that has always been available to you.

For a person that likes flying, this ludicrous situation you brought up would end up with a random dude walking over and taking your egg and throwing it away, claiming that they don't like it and in the end you don't need it.

[sam86]

I started to wonder if the rumors are true, that because they rushed WoD, they didn't design it with flying in mind, aka like old vanilla areas, using 2d models instead of 3d in some areas etc

[Triona]

I started to wonder if the rumors are true, that because they rushed WoD, they didn't design it with flying in mind, aka like old vanilla areas, using 2d models instead of 3d in some areas etc

nah, if that were true they wouldn't allow all these items that do allow a bit of flying.

[sam86]

Then don't fly. It's an option that has always been available to you.

People aren't not enjoying not flying, they are enjoying denying others flying, it isn't related to them, they feel better for taking something from you
They always had option of no flying, but they don't want that

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nah, if that were true they wouldn't allow all these items that do allow a bit of flying.

Flying items that do allow bit of flying exist since vanilla wow, specifically helmets that malfunction from engineering

[Triona]

Flying items that do allow bit of flying exist since vanilla wow, specifically helmets that malfunction from engineering

yeah but you just skyrocket straight up. the items actually allow you to glide and see all that was done in the terrain. it's very obvious it was built incase they do allow flying.

[MoanaLisa]

Flying items that do allow bit of flying exist since vanilla wow, specifically helmets that malfunction from engineering

True enough and answers your point. The garrison item that allows one to fly a bit every so often pretty much settles the question that the Draenor zones were fully modeled. It's also true that going back to some 2D modeling and keeping people firmly on the ground would allow them to cut costs and make more efficient use of their artists in future expansions (depending on how you view what they do). Or to be fair, both at once.

[Lane]

The places I've used Aviana's Feather look fleshed out, but I haven't tried using it around anywhere that might be unfinished. Interesting theory though, that they've disallowed flying due to unfinished areas.

[Doomchicken]

Then don't fly. It's an option that has always been available to you.

For a person that likes flying.

Would you like it the same if it was 60 percent mount speed? I would bet most people don't actually care about the "act" of flying but rather the convenience of it all, which is exactly what the problem is; it is far too OP in its current incarnation.

[Seditian]

I have been a gamer longer than most were a twinkle in their momma's eye lol. Yes I I have cred thanks.

I just wanted to quote this to laugh at you, so here it is: HAHAHA.

My god the whining is unbearable in this thread. I'm glad flying is staying away, hopefully forever, it's the one thing that is better in other MMO's. Well one of the two things actually, racials don't meddle with end-game balance.

[Cthulhu 2020]

CONFIRMED, no flying in 6.1. Hallelujah.

[diddle]

Would you like it the same if it was 60 percent mount speed? I would bet most people don't actually care about the "act" of flying but rather the convenience of it all, which is exactly what the problem is; it is far too OP in its current incarnation.

How is it OP?

Flying crits inconvenience for 100M?

[bufferunderrun]

I started to wonder if the rumors are true, that because they rushed WoD, they didn't design it with flying in mind, aka like old vanilla areas, using 2d models instead of 3d in some areas etc

nope even using eye of the beast there isn't a single 2d object in draenor, if you use that near silvermoon for example you can see that the city is just fake, draenor is flyable without any problem. Blizzard isn't implementing fly to slow down content consumption and to eventually have it implemented has a selling point for future patches.

[Doomchicken]

How is it OP?

Flying crits inconvenience for 100M?

There's no real drawbacks what so ever and 180 percent to 210 percent faster than any ground mount. How is that not OP?

[Armourboy]

CONFIRMED, no flying in 6.1. Hallelujah.

Not shocked. I said going in when they made the announcement that the whole expac wouldn't have it because its their pet " cause " for this xpac. NM the fact I've already heard the rumblings in my guild that people are getting pretty tired of being on the ground ( and garrisons feeling like work instead of fun) and these are generally people who didn't care or thought it was a good idea.

TBH the biggest complaint so far is basically people are feeling Blizzard built lots of obstructions just for the sake of doing it, not because it needed it. Secondary to that they are tired of getting hung up on things that are barely visible lol.

[oraz4000]

Artificial gating pure and simple.

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Artificial gating pure and simple.

I don't even think it's that. A lot of gating has been negated simply by your Garrison. I've barely used my herbalism skill and I'm already overflowing with herbs, not to mention the 1000+ true iron and blackrock.

If the questing is the same as previously for the most part and endgame content is centered around your garrison and hubs for your apexis, what is there left to artificially gate?

[randomnamegenerator16]

I've never been this disappointed with WoW or Blizzard. Being forced to run around on a slow ground mount pulling mobs to the left and right, getting stuck on the smallest rocks, being forced to take a 10 min detour be couse of a ridge placed just to make traveling take longer.
We had flying for 8 years, this just feels like a huge step back and it's driving people away from the game.
I have not spent more than maybe an hour outside my garrison since getting to lvl 100 and I doubt I will ever go outside again if flying doesn't return.
Canceled my sub until Blizzard wakes up...

Oh wow. I am just rolling on the floor, laughing maniacaly. From your post it seems that moving anywhere around the game is a nightmarish experience, some kind of torture... which is nowhere near true. I am uncertain how it was possible that people like you played vanilla, TBC (70), WotLK (up to 77) or MoP (up to 90) without flying. And unsubbing because of this? It is even more ridiculous than the rest of your post. Now I seriously think that I should unsub because there are no reputation dailies which I liked, lel.

If the questing is the same as previously for the most part and endgame content is centered around your garrison and hubs for your apexis, what is there left to artificially gate?

Their delusions.

[oraz4000]

I don't even think it's that. A lot of gating has been negated simply by your Garrison. I've barely used my herbalism skill and I'm already overflowing with herbs, not to mention the 1000+ true iron and blackrock.

If the questing is the same as previously for the most part and endgame content is centered around your garrison and hubs for your apexis, what is there left to artificially gate?

You're probably right i think its a number of things really maybe to hide the fact how small Draenor actually is, in general it is to slow you down from getting to A to B.

I just don't see this being a gameplay decision at all there is another motive here.

The "maybe" flying in 6.1 was all just a fluff of damage control i dont think they ever planned to allow flying in this expac.