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    Quote Originally Posted by cabyio View Post
    Hopefully they remove flying and you all quit, so we don't have to see your nonsense anymore.
    If that happens flying will make a hasty return. I hope enough people do quit to make it happen.

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    Can't we all just agree flying has pros and cons? We can't really change what Blizz wants to do, I'm pretty sure we'll end up with flying anyway in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stellan View Post
    WOW lost 4 million subscribers between the start of Cata and now. You really think people don't leave this game because they are dissatisfied with some aspect of it?
    Yes, and I AM one of those guys who left. Because the game became one friggin "convenience store", "casual factory", "deserted world" on end Cataclysm.

    This decision and attempt to create the world alive again, filling it with people and "timeless isle" mechanics that promote interaction between players.
    This is the stuff I love and is the only reason why I am willing to play it again.

    Because deep inside I know WoW is the only MMO with the resources, community and World where is possible to create a dynamic player interaction MMO.
    As much Blizz fucks the mechanics up, at least there is a small portion of this type of gameplay being present in the game.

    Cataclysm was the" world of Queuecraft" and the world was completely deserted with nothing to do.
    But still I was able to create my own little world where I did World Pvp inside Stormwind and on Stormwind gates and organized weekly raids to major alliance cities.
    This is the true spirit of an MMO, interaction between people and the dynamic and natural way how it happens makes it feel realistic and fresh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snorlax View Post
    You are a liar. Trying to claim that the Druid of the Flame staff dropped from LFR when LFR was introduced with Dragon Soul makes you a liar.
    Well that was his story sorry if I remembered it wrong xD
    But he did one shot Deathwing and got the epic loot he needed and got depressed by how easy it was...never seen him online since.
    He is playing GW2 atm, but an open world without interaction with the opposite faction...is not the game for me.
    Last edited by Shadowpunkz; 2014-03-27 at 10:23 PM.

  4. #5004
    Quote Originally Posted by SL1200 View Post
    If that happens flying will make a hasty return. I hope enough people do quit to make it happen.
    Didn't they say it would be back in 6.1? Most likely people will just slog through till 6.1 while constantly complaining. Though I wouldn't be too broken up if people like Superman left for good.

  5. #5005
    Quote Originally Posted by cabyio View Post
    Didn't they say it would be back in 6.1? Most likely people will just slog through till 6.1 while constantly complaining. Though I wouldn't be too broken up if people like Superman left for good.
    If they announce flying will return in 6.1, my wife and I would re purchase our pre orders (got them refunded), and start playing again in prep for WoD cause I think Garrisons are going to be expensive.

    However everything that has been said leads to the very real possibility that flying will not be available at in in WoD (barring flight paths). The "Wait and See" translates to me to " Flying will return if we lose enough subs to affect our jobs".

  6. #5006
    Quote Originally Posted by Maneo View Post
    If they announce flying will return in 6.1, my wife and I would re purchase our pre orders (got them refunded), and start playing again in prep for WoD cause I think Garrisons are going to be expensive.

    However everything that has been said leads to the very real possibility that flying will not be available at in in WoD (barring flight paths). The "Wait and See" translates to me to " Flying will return if we lose enough subs to affect our jobs".
    You really would quit just because of flying?

  7. #5007
    Quote Originally Posted by cabyio View Post
    You really would quit just because of flying?
    I already have man. I am just waiting for my account to expire.. April 19 I think.

    If all I did was raid or PVP (I loathe PVP), or sit in the capital cities queing it probably wouldn't bother me.

    However when I log on I am always out doing things if I am in que or not. I am always hunting rares, pet battling (I know how much you love this), farming, archeology, Hell even doing some dailies.

    The lack of flying changes all those things into tedious acts at best and a chore at worst. I just can't bring myself to play world of quecraft .. I play dps so those ques are anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours ... that is way to much time just sitting in game waiting to play .. not worth it for me.

  8. #5008
    Quote Originally Posted by Snorlax View Post
    You are a liar. Trying to claim that the Druid of the Flame staff dropped from LFR when LFR was introduced with Dragon Soul makes you a liar.
    She won't get what you are saying. She baits people and tells fabrications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maneo View Post
    I already have man. I am just waiting for my account to expire.. April 19 I think.

    However when I log on I am always out doing things if I am in que or not. I am always hunting rares, pet battling (I know how much you love this), farming, archeology, Hell even doing some dailies.

    ... that is way to much time just sitting in game waiting to play .. not worth it for me.

    Ok, after you leave PLZ private message me the MMO you are going to play next. But let me warn you...it wont have flying mounts ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    But he did one shot Deathwing and got the epic loot he needed
    And the lies continue to come forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    Ok, after you leave PLZ private message me the MMO you are going to play next. But let me warn you...it wont have flying mounts ^^
    Wildstar has flying mounts.

    http://wildstar-central.com/index.php?wiki/mounts/

    Bottom of the page... so yah the MMO I am going to does have flying mounts.

    Heck just watch the video at the bottom .. that is a GROUND MOUNT!!!! Tell me that doesn't look a ton more interesting way to travel then trudging around on WoWs ground mounts.
    Last edited by Maneo; 2014-03-27 at 11:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maneo View Post
    I already have man. I am just waiting for my account to expire.. April 19 I think.

    If all I did was raid or PVP (I loathe PVP), or sit in the capital cities queing it probably wouldn't bother me.

    However when I log on I am always out doing things if I am in que or not. I am always hunting rares, pet battling (I know how much you love this), farming, archeology, Hell even doing some dailies.

    The lack of flying changes all those things into tedious acts at best and a chore at worst. I just can't bring myself to play world of quecraft .. I play dps so those ques are anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours ... that is way to much time just sitting in game waiting to play .. not worth it for me.
    Nice to see there are still others like me in the game.

  13. #5013
    Quote Originally Posted by Maneo View Post
    I already have man. I am just waiting for my account to expire.. April 19 I think.

    If all I did was raid or PVP (I loathe PVP), or sit in the capital cities queing it probably wouldn't bother me.

    However when I log on I am always out doing things if I am in que or not. I am always hunting rares, pet battling (I know how much you love this), farming, archeology, Hell even doing some dailies.

    The lack of flying changes all those things into tedious acts at best and a chore at worst. I just can't bring myself to play world of quecraft .. I play dps so those ques are anywhere from 30 minutes to 2 hours ... that is way to much time just sitting in game waiting to play .. not worth it for me.
    I don't queue so if I'm going to get on and do something besides raid (with a guild, the only way), I will login with that specific intent. Like, "hey I need to farm some mats to get my money back up to a decent level, I'll login for a few hours on a non-raid day". So I guess I don't really care if it takes me a bit longer to do that stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman-BladesEdge View Post
    Nice to see there are still others like me in the game.
    That is your one power, there are lots of you icky casuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cabyio View Post
    I don't queue so if I'm going to get on and do something besides raid (with a guild, the only way), I will login with that specific intent. Like, "hey I need to farm some mats to get my money back up to a decent level, I'll login for a few hours on a non-raid day". So I guess I don't really care if it takes me a bit longer to do that stuff.
    Yeah same thing back when raiding was 50% or more of the game for me, this lack of flying wouldn't phase me a bit (although I still would be annoyed).

    Now raiding is only about 20% of my game the rest of it is spread between fun dailies, pet battles, making gold, hunting rares etc ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giscoicus View Post
    However, when you have a feather and a led block, you arent going to balance it, but removing the led block would be more balanced then leaving it on.
    Only..... there is no need to balance it. People keep spitting out that "OMG we need to balance this" are just clutching at air. Not everything needs to balance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cassidin View Post
    Only..... there is no need to balance it. People keep spitting out that "OMG we need to balance this" are just clutching at air. Not everything needs to balance.
    Can you explain why it doesn't need balanced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ordinator View Post
    Can you explain why it doesn't need balanced?
    First we need to know why it isn't balanced before we can try and refute it. You guys are making a claim then telling everyone to prove you wrong without explaining wtf is wrong with it in the first place.
    Quote Originally Posted by joeyray View Post
    what? you can knock people off ground mounts with auto attack.

  18. #5018
    Quote Originally Posted by cabyio View Post
    That is your one power, there are lots of you icky casuals.
    I would wager there are just as many hardcore asshats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urasim View Post
    First we need to know why it isn't balanced before we can try and refute it. You guys are making a claim then telling everyone to prove you wrong without explaining wtf is wrong with it in the first place.
    So far it just seems to be: "Because it pisses off casuals like you."

  19. #5019
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    How can people doubt that removing flying mounts will make the game so much more immersive and amazing?
    1. because you can't already do that now. 2. people will just do what they already do now, sit in the cities jumping on the roof in circles waiting for LFR/LFD Queue. 3. Immersion is relative.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    -first time in years people walking around in the world.
    ya, like we are going to be walkingn around in the world. As I said, in the cities waiting for queue, taking mage portals/warlock summons, flight paths, afk auto run while on mount and pray you dont get dazed
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    -engage and interact with people, possibly making friends and grouping for quests.
    what? you mean, /1 LFG <Quest>, need tank and healer, PST

    Like flying really has to do with anything in regards to making friends or groups for quests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    -more focused about your environment and interested in exploring the zones. (Blizzard said "easter eggs" and secrets will be scattered all over WoD)
    you mean taking a flight path and afk while you get a drink during that time. You are already at max level, you have already seen it. Or, if you are talking about while you are leveling, well, guess what, you can't fly while you level, same thing

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    -you will fear the enemy faction for the first time in a long time
    fear of what? 99% of pvp happens in .... BGs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post

    The World of mother f*in Warcraft will be populated again...how can people doubt this is an amazing thing? The only reason to doubt this is if it will be painfull to travel between point A to point B.
    what? they will be in the city until they need to do something. No flying doesn't make people go out in the world, if anything, it will probably do the opposite.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post

    But Blizzard already said they will be using the amazing power of "game design magic" to ensure that traveling will be very fast and easy. Flight paths will be boosted and possibly some teleports will be in order.
    Yes, nothing like teleports that lets you get to a location fast, skipping all that content even faster than if you were on a flying mount. YAY "IMMERSION".

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    Quote Originally Posted by urasim View Post
    First we need to know why it isn't balanced before we can try and refute it. You guys are making a claim then telling everyone to prove you wrong without explaining wtf is wrong with it in the first place.
    Problem: 7 million player game with an Empty world

    Reason: In Gaming Theory there is this thing called "Dominant Strategy"

    Dominant Strategy: If the player is given the ultimate method of disposing of obstacles in a game he is always going to use it.
    (ex: LFG= leveling, f.mounts= traveling)
    Players normal state is ON a flying mount. You never ever choose walk on foot or on the ground mount because is not the dominant strategy.
    You are considered a dumb person by choosing not to use it.

    Blizzard tried:
    -Profession master in the midle of nowhere
    -Vendors on the midle of Pandaren Zones
    -Daily quests
    -Rare mobss
    -World Bosses

    Nothing of this sorts made the world feel alive or even populated. People always stay flying above the zones where no other player can be seen.
    Last edited by Shadowpunkz; 2014-03-28 at 03:24 AM.

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