1. #5161
    Quote Originally Posted by Mafic View Post
    I said it at the start of this thread. This indeed will be WoW's NGE if they go through with it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Niinjax View Post
    I find it difficult to believe that people would be so greatly upset about no flying until 6.1 so much that they would rather quit the game.
    Surely this must just be the last thing in a long line to cause dissatfisaction to those going in this direction of quitting the game?

    I still do not care whether it will be no flying until 6.1 but then again I do not belive it would matter to me if was cut out of the new content entirely.
    Only reason? No, but it's the one thing so obnoxious that the expac isn't even worth a try to me. The other things I am not as fond of were not so bad that I would immediately quit rather than try it out and see whether I enjoy enough to keep playing. But no flying is a deal breaker for me.

  2. #5162
    Quote Originally Posted by rebecca191 View Post
    Only reason? No, but it's the one thing so obnoxious that the expac isn't even worth a try to me. The other things I am not as fond of were not so bad that I would immediately quit rather than try it out and see whether I enjoy enough to keep playing. But no flying is a deal breaker for me.
    Exactly this. If the expansion had enough positives to outweigh the negatives, then the removal of Flying at max level would be tolerable. If they had a solid expansion to go along with that removal, I'd console myself with the fact that I won't have enough time to worry about flying around and looking at the world and exploring and seeing every nook and cranny.

    As it is, there's NOTHING to this expansion that would keep anyone entertained for very long at all.

    What's that? Garrisons? Well, here's the thing about garrisons. It's all an automated thing. You send NPCs off to do stuff for you with a few clicks. And that's it. you don't actually do anything, except point fingers and NPCs do your bidding.

    At least in other games, you're busy doing other stuff, so you don't have 'time' to do your crafting, so you send your companions to do your crafting while you're busy saving the world or whatever. With this...well, there's nothing else to do.

    It's an empty expansion with no foundation and a singular copied feature from other games that do it better. Oh, and updated graphics that have been promised for several years now and won't be finished by the time the expansion drops six to seven months from now.

    In all honesty, the No Flying thing is just, as was said above, the deal-breaker.
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  3. #5163
    Quote Originally Posted by Master Tinker View Post
    Attention: Anyone who comes into a thread and gives orders like they matter some how...

    Get over yourself. You are not a mod, and people are free to post how they see fit.
    By your own standards...

    Finish the sentence.

  4. #5164
    Quote Originally Posted by Lolercaust View Post
    Why are you so certain Blizzard listened to "TBC hipsters" regarding Cata heroics? Isn't it possible that Blizzard makes design decisions based on what they feel the game needs?

    Nobody knows how this experiment is going to work out. It depends on how its implemented, because as Cata heroics demonstrated even a good idea can have bad results if implemented poorly.
    It's also possible Blizz devs are also players. If they've been around long enough, they themselves would be TBC hipsters

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durandro View Post
    By your own standards...

    Finish the sentence.
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  5. #5165
    Quote Originally Posted by Mosotti View Post
    Where the fuck did the get the feedback from? Because I didn't see a poll thingy popping up in-game asking about flying, and they've said multiple times that they don't design the game based on forum posting. So, where the fuck is that feedback coming from?

    Here's the answer: there was no feedback, it's a totally pragmatic decision, to make the boring obsolete content "last longer", even if it's annoying and tedious. They base their decision on the belief that the WoW population can't make the difference between actual content and running around. We'll just have to wait and see if that's true, my belief is that even the most ardent defender of the no flying crap will rage pretty quickly after release and long before patch 6.1, simply because the no flying crap will not bring the people out in the world, to involve them in epic world PvP battles or whatever the fuck some people dream

    Also, regarding the flight paths, and the stupid argument "WoD is designed with no flying in mind" lol... Even if they make the flight paths faster and non retarded, it's still AFK TIME. It doesn't matter to me that the new flight path is only taking 4 minutes instead of 5 minutes. It's still 4 minutes of doing nothing. And let's talk about the retarded "parachute" argument, that doesn't help me either. Currently if I go somewhere and I change my mind, or someone asks me to go somewhere, I just change the direction. Now if there's not flying, but we have the new awesome flight path with parachuting, I'll have to parachute, probably in the middle of some shit zone infested with obsolete mobs I don't give a fuck about, ride to the first flight master, hoping there's no fucking ganker along the way. In the mean time, the people that are waiting for me get bored and say "it's OK, we got another dude, can't wait for hours for you to sort out the traveling shit"
    Might have been me, I sent a bunch of positive feedback/comments to various Blizzard employees via twitter, telling them how wonderful the proposed changes are and thanking them / encouraging them to go further with delaying flying or consider outright removal.

    Sorry! haha =)
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  6. #5166
    Quote Originally Posted by TyrianFC View Post
    Might have been me, I sent a bunch of positive feedback/comments to various Blizzard employees via twitter, telling them how wonderful the proposed changes are and thanking them / encouraging them to go further with delaying flying or consider outright removal.

    Sorry! haha =)
    You could offer them a personal handie and it wouldn't matter if WoD tanks. Money talks, bullshit walks.

    When this expansion's numbers end up in the toilet, you'll see a repeat of the Great Nerfing of 4.2 fame, with them doing a 180 degree shift in game direction again and they'll fall all over themselves, catering to the people that dumped the game because of the latest POS expansion.

    Hopefully, after WoD results in the 3rd consecutive fail-expansion with another 2mil sub loss, they'll finally fire those retards in charge of Development and get the game back to LK quality stuff again.
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  7. #5167
    Quote Originally Posted by Infernix View Post
    Hopefully, after WoD results in the 3rd consecutive fail-expansion with another 2mil sub loss, they'll finally fire those retards in charge of Development and get the game back to LK quality stuff again.
    From what I have seen in the game credits, the Directors from each Dept are just about the same people in MoP that they were in Wrath. So, I am guessing trying to recapture the glory of Wrath is no longer an option.

  8. #5168
    Quote Originally Posted by Master Tinker View Post
    From what I have seen in the game credits, the Directors from each Dept are just about the same people in MoP that they were in Wrath. So, I am guessing trying to recapture the glory of Wrath is no longer an option.
    Then put a bullet into the game's head and move on to WoW 2 because we've gotten gift-wrapped turds for the last two expansions and the third looks worse than Cata at the present moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infernix View Post
    Then put a bullet into the game's head and move on to WoW 2 because we've gotten gift-wrapped turds for the last two expansions and the third looks worse than Cata at the present moment.
    Noone is forcing you to play bro. I haven't been subbed for months now and am just gonna wait it out. If you don't like the way the game's going, why keep playing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TyrianFC View Post
    Might have been me, I sent a bunch of positive feedback/comments to various Blizzard employees via twitter, telling them how wonderful the proposed changes are and thanking them / encouraging them to go further with delaying flying or consider outright removal.

    Sorry! haha =)
    Well, naturally.

    Those are the ones they don't delete.

  11. #5171
    Quote Originally Posted by TyrianFC View Post
    Might have been me, I sent a bunch of positive feedback/comments to various Blizzard employees via twitter, telling them how wonderful the proposed changes are and thanking them / encouraging them to go further with delaying flying or consider outright removal.

    Sorry! haha =)
    Do you have any idea what the word wonderful means? World peace is wonderful, food when you're hungry is wonderful, space travel would be wonderful, Liv Taylor is wonderful, removing a system that has existed for over half a game's life isn't wonderful because it pisses in a ton of people's faces.

    YOU might LIKE it, but there's nothing wonderful about it.

    WONDER

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    What's so full of wonder about ground mounts? Where's the wonder? If you want ground mounts mount up on one right now and go play every day on ground mount only, it's soon gonna be wonderempty.
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  12. #5172
    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    Noone is forcing you to play bro. I haven't been subbed for months now and am just gonna wait it out. If you don't like the way the game's going, why keep playing?
    So, you're in agreement that the game is crap and needs to be put down, burned down, the earth salted and a new game developed with whole new development and management teams?

    Awesome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Infernix View Post
    So, you're in agreement that the game is crap and needs to be put down, burned down, the earth salted and a new game developed with whole new development and management teams?

    Awesome.
    No. I'm in agreement with the idea that if you don't like it, you shouldn't pay for it. Honestly, a "WoW2" doesn't interest me that much.

    What I AM saying is that there are new games being developed with new development teams and new management teams and some of them are quite good. What I AM saying is that if you are tired of WoW, don't look for the company to be rebuilt from scratch along with their products. There are more companies than Blizzard out there and they often make good games. Go play them. You don't need to rely on a Blizzard, now or old, for a good gaming experience.
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  14. #5174
    Quote Originally Posted by Infernix View Post
    Exactly this. If the expansion had enough positives to outweigh the negatives, then the removal of Flying at max level would be tolerable. If they had a solid expansion to go along with that removal, I'd console myself with the fact that I won't have enough time to worry about flying around and looking at the world and exploring and seeing every nook and cranny.

    As it is, there's NOTHING to this expansion that would keep anyone entertained for very long at all.

    What's that? Garrisons? Well, here's the thing about garrisons. It's all an automated thing. You send NPCs off to do stuff for you with a few clicks. And that's it. you don't actually do anything, except point fingers and NPCs do your bidding.

    At least in other games, you're busy doing other stuff, so you don't have 'time' to do your crafting, so you send your companions to do your crafting while you're busy saving the world or whatever. With this...well, there's nothing else to do.

    It's an empty expansion with no foundation and a singular copied feature from other games that do it better. Oh, and updated graphics that have been promised for several years now and won't be finished by the time the expansion drops six to seven months from now.

    In all honesty, the No Flying thing is just, as was said above, the deal-breaker.
    Exactly. I watched the announce trailer last fall like everyone else and when it was done I was wondering where the expansion was.

    Then I hear about all the things they are removing, simplifying, etc. Then no flying. That is what did it for me. That is what made me unsub what was already a boring MoP experience. Why stick around if I know that I don't like the direction the game is going? Especially since this expansion is all about taking away features and rehashing old maps.

    There are so many amazing games out and coming out I won't be bored. Blizzard needed to step up their game not completely fumble the ball again like they did in Cata and MoP.

  15. #5175
    Quote Originally Posted by Infernix View Post
    Exactly this. If the expansion had enough positives to outweigh the negatives, then the removal of Flying at max level would be tolerable. If they had a solid expansion to go along with that removal, I'd console myself with the fact that I won't have enough time to worry about flying around and looking at the world and exploring and seeing every nook and cranny.

    As it is, there's NOTHING to this expansion that would keep anyone entertained for very long at all.

    What's that? Garrisons? Well, here's the thing about garrisons. It's all an automated thing. You send NPCs off to do stuff for you with a few clicks. And that's it. you don't actually do anything, except point fingers and NPCs do your bidding.

    At least in other games, you're busy doing other stuff, so you don't have 'time' to do your crafting, so you send your companions to do your crafting while you're busy saving the world or whatever. With this...well, there's nothing else to do.

    It's an empty expansion with no foundation and a singular copied feature from other games that do it better. Oh, and updated graphics that have been promised for several years now and won't be finished by the time the expansion drops six to seven months from now.

    In all honesty, the No Flying thing is just, as was said above, the deal-breaker.
    I love flying so much that I struggled to think of an expansion I'd still want to try with no flying. After thinking about it for a while, I came to the conclusion that I could only tolerate it if there was tons of amazing instanced content to the point I never would have to go out and do pet battles or archeology or other open world things in order to have something fun to do in game (because I hate ground travel THAT.MUCH.)

    I don't see that happening in WoD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebecca191 View Post
    I love flying so much that I struggled to think of an expansion I'd still want to try with no flying. After thinking about it for a while, I came to the conclusion that I could only tolerate it if there was tons of amazing instanced content to the point I never would have to go out and do pet battles or archeology or other open world things in order to have something fun to do in game (because I hate ground travel THAT.MUCH.)

    I don't see that happening in WoD.
    Or that subterranean idea that a fan came up with where you could potentially scale walls and ceilings (of zones, not buildings).

    It's very sad that fans are coming up with better ideas than the actual people making the game at this point.

  17. #5177
    Quote Originally Posted by Infernix View Post
    You could offer them a personal handie and it wouldn't matter if WoD tanks. Money talks, bullshit walks.

    When this expansion's numbers end up in the toilet, you'll see a repeat of the Great Nerfing of 4.2 fame, with them doing a 180 degree shift in game direction again and they'll fall all over themselves, catering to the people that dumped the game because of the latest POS expansion.

    Hopefully, after WoD results in the 3rd consecutive fail-expansion with another 2mil sub loss, they'll finally fire those retards in charge of Development and get the game back to LK quality stuff again.
    Hold on.

    What part of Wrath of the Casuals was quality again? The faceroll dungeons? LFG? Buying tier?

    hmmm nope, dont see anything of quality there.

  18. #5178
    Quote Originally Posted by Giscoicus View Post
    Hold on.

    What part of Wrath of the Casuals was quality again? The faceroll dungeons? LFG? Buying tier?

    hmmm nope, dont see anything of quality there.
    Ulduar, Heroic Lich King and some of the other bosses in there, getting to conclude the Arthas story (and the rest of the story/lore in the expac I also liked), the zones were nice and several are among my top favorite WoW zones, leveling alts and getting them decent gear wasn't a total pain, achievements, learnable pets and mounts, I loved a lot of things in Wrath.

  19. #5179
    Quote Originally Posted by rebecca191 View Post
    Ulduar, Heroic Lich King and some of the other bosses in there, getting to conclude the Arthas story (and the rest of the story/lore in the expac I also liked), the zones were nice and several are among my top favorite WoW zones, leveling alts and getting them decent gear wasn't a total pain, achievements, learnable pets and mounts, I loved a lot of things in Wrath.
    The storyline in ulduar, ice crown and storm peaks were amazing. Mop pales in comparison. I still enjoy that area.

  20. #5180
    Quote Originally Posted by Zigzagzoom View Post
    The storyline in ulduar, ice crown and storm peaks were amazing. Mop pales in comparison. I still enjoy that area.
    Yep, and Icecrown and Storm Peaks were designed for flying mounts, so clearly Blizz can tell a good story in a zone without restricting flying.

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