[Movie/TV/Comic] Marvel Cinematic Universe: A place to talk all things Marvel

[Falrinn]

As far as I know, the two Ghost Rider movies were by Columbia Pictures. The two recent(ish) Punisher movies weren't by Marvel themselves either, for that matter, IIRC.

As far as I can tell Marvel Studios didn't really do any movies 100% "in house" until the first Iron Man movie. Basically if it's not in the MCU, then Marvel Studios wasn't in full control of the production (if they had any control at all).

[Lucetia]

It's not really clear if Spider-Woman is part of the package, but I suspect she is. It's also possible that Firestar, who was created for the Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends cartoon, is part of the movie package. Black Cat, of course, is a cat burglar who has the power to give other people bad luck. Silver Sable is a gun-toting mercenary.

I don't think Firestar would be part of the package because if she was created for the cartoon Marvel then owns the rights to any and all animated versions. So it might be a fine line type of deal?

That's why we seeing Marvel/Disney creating the various Spider-Man cartoons you see.

[shadowfyre27]

Now granted this is just the rumor going around but their is some evidence to back it up. Sony is currently in financial dire straits. Their movies haven't exactly been performing as well they used to and they are hurting quite a bit financially. So the rumor is that Sony and Marvel have been having some talks about Marvel being allowed to use Spider-Man in exchange for a cut of the profits. The hold up atm is that Sony wants to wait till their Sinister Six movie is released. Supposedly if Sinister Six does well and is a box office hit then they won't go through with the deal. On the other hand if it doesn't perform and bring in a large amount of money then they will go through with the deal with Marvel. A good example of one their movies not performing as well as they wanted is The Amazing Spider-Man 2. Yes it did pretty well at the box office but it didn't do nearly as well as Sony wanted or expected it to. So using that as a basis Sinister Six has to do pretty damn good at release and imo I don't think it will. Everytime they have had multiple villains in their movie it just makes the movie worse. Now the movie would have the villains as the focus but it still doesn't instill me with confidence.

[Dhrizzle]

Does Sony own Spider-woman?

[Immitis]

Does Sony own Spider-woman?

its possible. they may own all "spider" characters. its also possible marvel owns her since she didnt debut in a spidey book and has nothing to do with spider-man besides the similar name.

its also possible that they both own her.

with marvel owning the jessica drew/616 version of spider woman and sony owning the ultimate and recent gwen stacy version of spider-woman.

fox owns any character that debutes in an x-men book (except in special circumstances like a marvel now event)

its very likely these grey area stuff exist in sonys spidey contract as well so they might own all versions of spider-woman who premiered in spidey books.

so it could be a scarlet witch/quicksilver type thing

[Tradewind]

Recorded on a potato and its just rehashing old scenes for the most part...but:

[Tierbook]

nice but at the same time I guess this means that Captain america won't die for awhile.

[Immitis]

nice but at the same time I guess this means that Captain america won't die for awhile.

id be really surprised if he didnt die or be kidnapped or whatever.

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the working title for captain america 3 was fallen son. things are looking grim for cap

[Falrinn]

id be really surprised if he didnt die or be kidnapped or whatever.

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the working title for captain america 3 was fallen son. things are looking grim for cap

The actor is only signed on for 2 more movies, so I'm thinking what they might do is kill him off during Civil War, and then bring him back during Infinity War: Part 2 through mystical means. He would then die again, either because Thanos kills him or because whatever means used to bring him back were never intended to be permanent.

[Ausr]

The actor is only signed on for 2 more movies, so I'm thinking what they might do is kill him off during Civil War, and then bring him back during Infinity War: Part 2 through mystical means. He would then die again, either because Thanos kills him or because whatever means used to bring him back were never intended to be permanent.

He's signed on for a couple more movies but he's obviously open to more from a recent interview. He's more than likely going to be in the Avengers 3 movies. That'll probably be the good time to move the old team to the new team. Maybe have them around as cameos if they're required.

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So the orb in Loki's scepter is indeed the Infinity mind stone because they showed it in the teaser? I mean, it was guessed before but now we have our confirmation. Two to go ;-) (Doctor Strange and Gotg2?)

[Arrowstormen]

So the orb in Loki's scepter is indeed the Infinity mind stone because they showed it in the teaser? I mean, it was guessed before but now we have our confirmation. Two to go ;-) (Doctor Strange and Gotg2?)

Is Doctor Strange a guy who'd be dealing with infinity stones? Thor: Ragnarok seems possible too.

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Some months ago I read an article about it here

Soul – The most mystical stone of the bunch, the green Soul Stone can affect the souls of the living and the dead. The MCU has yet to venture into mystical territory, with the magic found in the Thor films explained away as an advanced form of science. But with a Doctor Strange film possibly on the horizon, it seems like the MCU is ready to take the plunge into the astral plane. If so, it makes perfect sense that Doctor Strange would come up against the Soul Stone.

And my bet for the time stone is guardians of the galaxy with Adam Warlock.

Maybe Ragnarok will lead to the theft of the gaunlet and the Tesseract?

[Tierbook]

Is there a possibility Captain America shows up in Ant-man in some form?

[Tradewind]

Some months ago I read an article about it here

And my bet for the time stone is guardians of the galaxy with Adam Warlock.

Maybe Ragnarok will lead to the theft of the gaunlet and the Tesseract?

Lets not forget too that Black Panther at one time had the purple infinity stone, as did Black Bolt of the Inhumans.

As did Carol Danvers, though that one is almost certainly the mind gem, which is in loki's staff.

[Arrowstormen]

Lets not forget too that Black Panther at one time had the purple infinity stone, as did Black Bolt of the Inhumans.

As did Carol Danvers, though that one is almost certainly the mind gem, which is in loki's staff.

Seems to me like you're a wuss in the comics if you haven't had an infinity gem at some point.

[Tradewind]

Seems to me like you're a wuss in the comics if you haven't had an infinity gem at some point.

lol they have all changed hands to someone at some point it would seem.

The thing I like about the upcoming titles is that seriously any one of them could have a stone, since they've all had one at some point. could be interesting too if the final stone is Black Bolt's with that movie supposedly sandwiched between Infinity War 1 and 2. Though I expect GotG2 to be the Adam Warlock show for sure.

[Arrowstormen]

lol they have all changed hands to someone at some point it would seem.

The thing I like about the upcoming titles is that seriously any one of them could have a stone, since they've all had one at some point. could be interesting too if the final stone is Black Bolt's with that movie supposedly sandwiched between Infinity War 1 and 2. Though I expect GotG2 to be the Adam Warlock show for sure.

I'd be very disappointed if that was the case. Luckily I don't think James Gunn would put one guy in the center like that, with all his comments about expanding the cosmic universe and all. Also, it doesn't really matter that they've all had an infinity stone at some point in the comics. Even IF, say, Doctor Strange had played around with the soul gem and Ant-Man hasn't, it doesn't mean Ant-Man won't be the guy who gets to play around with it in the MCU.

[Falrinn]

Is there a possibility Captain America shows up in Ant-man in some form?

I'd be surprised if Captain America has anything more then the briefest of cameos. If Ant-Man is going to be included in Civil War I could see a post-credit scene where he's recruited into the Avengers (or specifically whatever side he ends up being on).

[Immitis]

the soul gem is pretty important to adam warlocks storyline, hes also pretty important when it comes to the thanos stuff. his hive was already in the collectors stuff and at the end it had hatched im 99% sure he will show up in gotg2 with the soul gem

"Adam Warlock is an artificially created human who was born in a cocoon at a scientific complex called The Beehive. The goal of his creators, the Enclave, was to create and subsequently exploit the perfect human. While in the cocoon, he became aware of his creators' plans for him. He awoke from the cocoon and rebelled. Having not had a childhood or parents, Warlock was lacking in maturity and restraint. He first met Alicia Masters, who was brought to the Beehive to sculpt his face, as he initially radiated so much light that a sighted person could not see through. She found him encased in a cocoon, from which he shortly emerged, destroying his creators that he hated so much, and teleported away. Warlock later came into conflict with the Fantastic Four and Thor; during his encounter with Odinson, he was killed when he attempted to force Thor's sometime paramour Sif to become his mate.

Adam was revived and his behavior improved when he met the being known as the High Evolutionary. Under his guidance, Warlock's life was given direction and purpose. Warlock also came into possession of the Soul Gem. The Soul Gem, one of the Infinity Gems, allowed Warlock to sense the souls of others and draw them into a dimension contained within the gem. Warlock was then transported to Counter-Earth, an attempt by the High Evolutionary to create a Utopian society out of the framework of the original Earth. Unfortunately, it had fallen under the influence of the Man-Beast, a wolf that had been genetically modified into humanoid form by the High Evolutionary. In the process of ending the Man-Beast's regime, Warlock's narcissism led him to another death, this time by crucifixion. Warlock used his powers to resurrect himself. Warlock, in recreating the resurrection of Christ on Counter earth, lead to the creation of an organized religion planet wide; this also was the first step toward Warlock’s "God Complex".


Traveling in the Hercules Cluster, Adam learned of the oppressive Universal Church of Truth that worshiped the Magus. Appearing to Adam, Magus revealed that they were the same being. In one alternate future (Earth-7528), the Magus used the soul gem to saturate Adam’s body with a beacon radiation that summoned the In-Betweener, inhabitant of the realm between fact and fantasy who took Adam to his domain, where he was driven mad. Emerging as the Magus, this Warlock discovered he had returned five thousand years into the past and began building his church. Aware of his history and fearing the Magus’ existence would deprive him of someday owning Adam’s soul gem, the mad god Thanos of Titan attempted to prevent the occurrence by plucking a young child, Gamora, from an alternate future and raising her to be Magus’ assassin. En-route to his destiny, Adam was imprisoned on the Church star ship, “the Great Divide” where he teamed with his fellow prisoners Pip the Troll and absorbed the soul of Captain Autolycus into his gem against his will. Later on trial on Sirus X the Church’s Homeworld, Adam absorbed Judge Kray-Tor’s soul. Thus unleashing of his soul gems vampire-like appetites was possibly caused by Spinxor of the Ringshippers (a.k.a Prime Movers) of Tarkus in his first bid to prevent Warlock from interfering in his theft of Counter-Earth for mysterious Beyonders. Realizing that the gem was sentient, thirsted for souls and could not be removed, Adam sank into despair. Gamora joined Warlock and Pip on Homeworld, but Magus easily thwarted Gamora’s assassination attempt, then doused Adam with the beacon radiation. Gamora’s ineffectiveness forced Thanos to intervene, and the primal battle between Magus’ life-force and Thanos’ death-force allowed Adam to enter the Titan’s time portal and follow his kismet trail. Choosing the shortest path, Adam saw himself dying only months later and absorbed his future self’s soul into the gem. The two timelines thus diverged and the Magus seemingly ceased to exist.


Soon after, Adam witnessed the rapid extinction of the stars and used his soul gem to track the culprit, the Star Thief, back to Earth; the star thief's body was slain while his mind was occupied in battling Warlock. Arriving home, Warlock perceived himself as wraith-like and larger than the solar system, an illusion generated through Adam's soul gem by the Sphinxor to keep him at bay. Later while gaining his perceptions, Warlock encountered Spider-Man on the Moon and helped thwart the Stranger's bid to steal the Gardener's Infinity Gems. Believing Counter-Earth destroyed due to another Sphinxor illusion, an enraged Adam attacked the High Evolutionary with his soul gem and forced him to escape death by becoming a disembodied intelligence, leaving Counter-Earth ripe for the taking. Meanwhile, Thanos procured five Infinity Gems, combining them and the power he had siphoned from Adam's gem in the Magus battle into a single large synthetic gem that he planned to use to extinguish the stars as a present to Mistress Death. When they interfered, Thanos killed Gamora and lobotomized Pip; Adam absorbed their souls into his gem. Thanos' attempt to destroy the Earth's sun was opposed by Warlock, Captain Mar-Vell, and the Avengers. In battle, Thanos mortally wounded Adam, As Warlock lay dying, his past self arrived from Thanos' time portal and absorbed his soul; weary of his many losses and struggles, Adam actually welcomed death. He found himself with the soul gem's other victims in Soulworld, a paradise of understanding and contentment. Thanos claimed Adam's gem but the newly arrived Spider-Man temporarily freed Warlock's spirit. As the Ultimate Avenger, Warlock turned Thanos to granite with a touch. Warlocks body was buried on Counter-Earth."