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    Go watch the Fantastic Four movie they made back then that Marvel paid to have it never released in theaters or video b/c of how bad it was. The whole thing is on Youtube, but I can't post the link at work. Use your google-fu and watch the whole thing. The sad part is that it is better than the upcoming movie looks. :-/
    Anything is better than Blogger Von Doom.

  2. #2002
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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    And... ninja'd by Zoaric (That's what I get for taking the time to watch that... unique trailer).
    Fortunately (or maybe unfortunately,) I'd already seen the movie.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yvaelle View Post
    You can't fight porn on the internet, you may as well declare war on something overwhelming like water on Earth's surface - or something ephemeral like "terror" (lol sorry, had to do it) - or something both overwhelming and ephemeral... like porn on the internet.

  3. #2003
    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    I was always under the impression that Coulson (or someone) was just making stuff up that fit the initials and the setting he was in. It was quite clear that SHIELD does not answer to the US government.
    Going all the way back to Iron Man, the initials have always meant the same thing.

  4. #2004
    I'm confused by Spader's Ultron voice now I was really looking forward to that deep growly one from the first trailers...but now he sounds like an accountant. I'm sure it'll grow on me like the second version of Hardy's Bane voice, but damn...
    "You six-piece Chicken McNobody."
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    You are a legend thats why.

  5. #2005
    Quote Originally Posted by Tradewind View Post
    I'm confused by Spader's Ultron voice now I was really looking forward to that deep growly one from the first trailers...but now he sounds like an accountant. I'm sure it'll grow on me like the second version of Hardy's Bane voice, but damn...
    Ultron just wants to be an accountant, why won't they let him?

  6. #2006
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    Ultron just wants to be an accountant, why won't they let him?
    and sail the wide accountan-sea.
    "You six-piece Chicken McNobody."
    Quote Originally Posted by RICH816 View Post
    You are a legend thats why.

  7. #2007
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoaric View Post
    So 'fathers' is the theme. Guess that means the story centers either Drax, Thanos,
    Quill Sr. or a combination of them. Gunn also said that Awesome Mix vol 2 tops the
    last one (and that it was the most daunting part of GotG2 so far,) as well as teasing
    that we'll definitely get more dancing in this one.
    http://www.vulture.com/2015/04/guard...atherhood.html
    So does that mean we'll see Nebula again? I was wondering if they were going to save her for Infinity War.
    You're not allowed to discuss conspiracy theories on mmo-champion, which makes me wonder what they're trying to hide.

  8. #2008
    Quote Originally Posted by chrth View Post
    So does that mean we'll see Nebula again? I was wondering if they were going to save her for Infinity War.
    She was confirmed a while ago yes.

  9. #2009
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    She was confirmed a while ago yes.
    Sweeeeeeet!
    You're not allowed to discuss conspiracy theories on mmo-champion, which makes me wonder what they're trying to hide.

  10. #2010
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    Yeah they were trying to figure out a way to do it so she doesn't have to shave her head again...likely b/c she is in a TV Show (even though it's bad) and shaving her head is not happening.
    BAD WOLF

  11. #2011
    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    I was always under the impression that Coulson (or someone) was just making stuff up that fit the initials and the setting he was in. It was quite clear that SHIELD does not answer to the US government.
    Regardless, the reference to "Homeland" in the name is pointed. SHIELD is the nightmare of the Department of Homeland Security existing as a global force.

    Frankly, it wouldn't matter either way. If SHIELD "answered" to a shadowy group of senators who ordered the destruction of NYC, they would be just as sinister.

  12. #2012
    Quote Originally Posted by Kelimbror View Post
    Yeah they were trying to figure out a way to do it so she doesn't have to shave her head again...likely b/c she is in a TV Show (even though it's bad) and shaving her head is not happening.
    Thought everybody just wore bald wigs these days anyway.

    Slowly getting through Daredevil, and the whole "killing is bad argument" doesn't really work. The Avengers have all killed tons of people, yet Daredevil don't want to because moral reasons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahourai View Post
    Regardless, the reference to "Homeland" in the name is pointed. SHIELD is the nightmare of the Department of Homeland Security existing as a global force.

    Frankly, it wouldn't matter either way. If SHIELD "answered" to a shadowy group of senators who ordered the destruction of NYC, they would be just as sinister.
    The WSC made the right call, considering their position. If the super peeps had failed, ending the invasion now and lose a city would be the better alternative.
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  13. #2013
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    Thought everybody just wore bald wigs these days anyway.

    Slowly getting through Daredevil, and the whole "killing is bad argument" doesn't really work. The Avengers have all killed tons of people, yet Daredevil don't want to because moral reasons?
    "I don't kill people"
    "You threw my guy off the roof into a dumpster and put him in a coma"
    "but he isn't dead!"
    "I only feel two things Gary, nothing, and nothingness."

  14. #2014
    @Arrow

    His whole thing is that he is a lawyer, so he would rather jail them then kill them.

    "Would you please let me join your p-p-party?

  15. #2015
    Quote Originally Posted by Mapathy View Post
    @Arrow

    His whole thing is that he is a lawyer, so he would rather jail them then kill them.
    He's a vigilante who himself has stated that the law is sometimes not enough, so I don't really buy that just because he's a lawyer he doesn't want to kill. He wants to kill, he just don't think it's right.

  16. #2016
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    He's a vigilante who himself has stated that the law is sometimes not enough, so I don't really buy that just because he's a lawyer he doesn't want to kill. He wants to kill, he just don't think it's right.
    He almost killed Fisk but decided that the law should deal with him. He did want to kill but realised after talking to the priest that it was wrong.

    "Would you please let me join your p-p-party?

  17. #2017
    Quote Originally Posted by Mapathy View Post
    He almost killed Fisk but decided that the law should deal with him. He did want to kill but realised after talking to the priest that it was wrong.
    So the Avengers are wrong? The US and the rest of the world fighting against terrorism by killing the terrorists is wrong? I know moral ethics are subjective and all, but MCU has itself established that killing bad guys is a-okay.

  18. #2018
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    So the Avengers are wrong? The US and the rest of the world fighting against terrorism by killing the terrorists is wrong? I know moral ethics are subjective and all, but MCU has itself established that killing bad guys is a-okay.
    But the characters aren't all a hive mind, they can think for themselves.

    Figuratively.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yvaelle View Post
    You can't fight porn on the internet, you may as well declare war on something overwhelming like water on Earth's surface - or something ephemeral like "terror" (lol sorry, had to do it) - or something both overwhelming and ephemeral... like porn on the internet.

  19. #2019
    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowstormen View Post
    So the Avengers are wrong? The US and the rest of the world fighting against terrorism by killing the terrorists is wrong? I know moral ethics are subjective and all, but MCU has itself established that killing bad guys is a-okay.
    Stop being melodramatic.

    The morals vary from hero to hero, Daredevil himself didnt want to cross that line but is fine with torture to gain info.

    Why does it bother you so much that Daredevil should kill the criminals he fights?

    "Would you please let me join your p-p-party?

  20. #2020
    Quote Originally Posted by Zoaric View Post
    But the characters aren't all a hive mind, they can think for themselves.

    Figuratively.
    The show is clearly pushing the idea that killing is wrong, no matter what, and even when it seems like you should kill a bad guy (i.e. Fisk), you shouldn't. That flies directly in the face of the MCU films, where the superheroes will gladly kill baddies who threaten theirs and others lives.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mapathy View Post
    Stop being melodramatic.

    The morals vary from hero to hero, Daredevil himself didnt want to cross that line but is fine with torture to gain info.

    Why does it bother you so much that Daredevil should kill the criminals he fights?
    Not being melodramatic, I'm taking up a serious topic which the show itself plays around with, if you don't want to discuss it, don't.

    Movies and TV-series have double standards when it comes to this topic, they contradict themselves. In this small, violent, brutal part of New York City, Daredevil killing is wrong and downright abhorrent, and the show teaches us that we shouldn't kill. At the same time, in a week's time, I'm going to see Avengers: Age of Ultron, which is a fun spectacle, happening in the same universe as Daredevil, filled with what Daredevil will have me believe are mass-murderers. I doubt Avengers will ever touch on this issue, so either the avengers are super sinister, or Daredevil is just plain wrong and a fool. Can't have this cake and eat it too.
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