man exonerated after 29years on death row....

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but its implementation and presumption of innocence is what makes it outstanding.

Pretty sure this is common in like ... most civilized countries.

[Sliske]

How many people get jailed, executed while innocent?

How many people get off free with murder or other crimes?

Many over the years, no doubt. They are the exception however. No system is perfect. There will be tragic cases such as these in the past and the future. It is the price we as a society pay for trying to have a justice system in the first place.

[AeneasBK]

Hurricane.

[Orlong]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...p_ref=uk&ir=UK

So, I wonder what the pro-death penalty people think of this. But for an absurdly slow "justice" system a totally innocent man would have been killed, as it is he "only" lost nearly 3 decades of his life in the hell that is the prison system....

Collateral damage. If we lose 1 person for every 100 that deserve it, then thats acceptable in my book

[Garnier Fructis]

This is why we need to install an express lane for capital punishment nationwide. We can avoid these embarrassing fuck ups by killing people before anyone figures out our mistakes.

The Texas model!

Collateral damage. If we lose 1 person for every 100 that deserve it, then thats acceptable in my book

Why am I not surprised that you can legitimize clear cut murder.

[Masark]

Why is the prosecution allowed to suppress evidence of someone else being involved? Prosecutors need to be held accountable for a lot of bullshit.

Because the people voting for the DA don't want honesty. They want Tough On Crime and high conviction percentages.

[N-7]

I'd rather be killed than be left hanging for 3 decades even if I was imprisoned unjustly.

[Garnier Fructis]

The average time from sentence to execution is almost 15 years in the US. http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/time-death-row

That's hardly a quick process.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...54/097/bd3.jpg

It's a jab at good ol' Texas.

[Reeve]

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...54/097/bd3.jpg

It's a jab at good ol' Texas.

We tend to make a good punching bag for internet forums for some reason.

[Garnier Fructis]

We tend to make a good punching bag for internet forums for some reason.

I'm sure you guys are just overrepresented. If we looked at other states I don't think it would be too hard to find some really weird shit.

[Deleted]

Collateral damage. If we lose 1 person for every 100 that deserve it, then thats acceptable in my book

What if it was you?

That man will never get back that time, no amount of money is enough. Got stitched up and almost killed. The death penalty should be abolished.

The US justice system is one of the best in the world. You may not agree with our laws or penalties, but its implementation and presumption of innocence is what makes it outstanding. No system is perfect and yes you're going to have oversealous prosecutors. You had the same thing with George Zimmerman. A carnival orchestrated by an overzealous DA who every expert said lacked the evidence she needed to get a conviction, yet proceeded anyway. You don't get to have it both ways. You can't march in the streets demanding "justice" and then complain that the system takes an extraordinary amount of time to resolve legal disputes because every rock eventually gets turned over.

I was looking for sarcasm but couldn't find any. The U.S. imprisons too many people with sentences are too long. The United States has five per cent of the world's population, 25 per cent of the world's incarcerated people, and 50 per cent of the world's lawyers. The American system is fucked up.

[Reeve]

I'm sure you guys are just overrepresented. If we looked at other states I don't think it would be too hard to find some really weird shit.

Florida comes to mind.

But California has a lot more people than Texas, yet they don't get aimed at quite so frequently. Maybe because CA is just freakin' awesome?

<---California native

[Reeve]

What if it was you?

That man will never get back that time, no amount of money is enough. Got stitched up and almost killed. The death penalty should be abolished.

I'd think, "Well this sucks." But I'd feel about the same as I would if I contracted Lou Gehrig's disease or something. Just one of the extremely unlucky out there, only in this case, there's a chance I can fight it in appeals, which I can't do with Lou Gehrig's.

Just to mention this one thing. I have no horse in this race. I don't care if there is or isn't a Death Penalty. But I also don't buy into the "one wrongful death is too many" argument either.

[Deleted]

He should get all the money that the people in the jury have ever and will ever make. I think that sounds fair.

[Tinykong]

Why are people blaming the jury for this?

Oh, sensationalist racism baiting.

The jury had nothing to do with this, evidence was suppressed and never brought to trial.

[Deleted]

Why are people blaming the jury for this?

Oh, sensationalist racism baiting.

The jury had nothing to do with this, evidence was suppressed and never brought to trial.

Then the jury was too dumb to understand not to judge without any evidence. But as people said it's a state known for racism, so.

[Themius]

It's odd some people are of the opinion that appeals are bullshit, take too long, and waste money, yet here we have an innocent saved (if you want to call it that) after spending 29 years in jail.

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It's odd some people are of the opinion that appeals are bullshit, take too long, and waste money, yet here we have an innocent saved (if you want to call it that) after spending 29 years in jail.

That's the funny part on these forums. The most severe punishment (whether he's innocent or not) should be as fast as possible and as cheap as possible. And if it was a mistake, well shit happens I suppose?

Thank god some countries understand it's 2014. Not 1402.

[Themius]

Collateral damage. If we lose 1 person for every 100 that deserve it, then thats acceptable in my book

This isn't a war.

[Rukentuts]

There's no need for an opinion from anyone, as common folks tend to be biased and use prejudice in their thinking.
Most of the western societies frown upon this method of so called justice, hence the ethical and judicial reasons of it being banned.

And cases like this are exactly why there should be a moratorium on capital punishment.

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This isn't a war.

How do you suspect Orlong would feel if he were that 1?