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    BM Hunter Opening

    Dear Hunters,

    I am having some issues with my opener as a BM Hunter.

    I was looking at Megabloks rush 14/14 HM (on twitch) and figured that his opener is (correct me if i am wrong )


    Glaive
    Bw + Kc
    RF + Stamped
    DB
    spam AS
    SS after the third KC

    My question is simple : why using stamped and DB during BW which is a lost of 2 GCD and not using them before BW?

    Is there a very nice hunter who can teach me the right and most effective opener.

    For information my opener :

    Glaive (at -1 sec)
    SrS
    Stamp + RF
    DB
    BW + KC
    Spam AS
    Last edited by Hunterlove; 2014-03-02 at 03:02 AM.

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    Because of Ticking Ebon Detonator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunterlove View Post
    Dear Hunters,

    I am having some issues with my opener as a BM Hunter.

    I was looking at Megabloks rush 14/14 HM (on twitch) and figured that his opener is (correct me if i am wrong )


    Glaive
    Bw + Kc
    RF + Stamped
    DB
    spam AS
    SS after the third KC

    My question is simple : why using stamped and DB during BW which is a lost of 2 GCD and not using them before BW?

    Is there a very nice hunter who can teach me the right and most effective opener.

    For information my opener :

    Glaive (at -1 sec)
    SrS
    Stamp + RF
    DB
    BW + KC
    Spam AS
    It depends if you have TED or not . Your opener that you linked is most ideal without TED, but with TED you want to BW KC as soon as it procs.

    Glaive toss
    Pre pot
    SrS(TED procs)
    BW + KC
    Stampede/rapid fire
    Dire beast

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    Using your opener, your first KC would only have a 14k~ Agility modifier on it instead of a 28k~ or so modifier. You lose more DPS by delaying your first KC due to how TED works than you do by using Stampede and DB during BW.

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    I srs after glaive to proc ted before GTs hits. Sometimes GT procs ted before it actually hits, not sure why but if it does then I don't srs and just BW + KC
    Last edited by Megabloks; 2014-03-02 at 08:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabloks View Post
    I srs after glaive to proc ted before GTs hits. Sometimes GT procs ted before it actually hits, not sure why but if it does then I don't srs and just BW + KC
    TED(and the other stack trinkets) have weird proc chances and proc from nearly everything for some reason. TED for example procs from Call pet, Revive pet and Dismiss pet just to name a few...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tehterokkar View Post
    TED(and the other stack trinkets) have weird proc chances and proc from nearly everything for some reason. TED for example procs from Call pet, Revive pet and Dismiss pet just to name a few...
    Right I know that, but this week on IJ GT proc'd AoC before it even hit IJ.

    http://i.imgur.com/aclmonk.png Proc'd from just the GT before it even hit.

    http://i.imgur.com/sFOOo4c.png Here is GT hitting nearly 2 seconds later

    http://i.imgur.com/LtuHCf8.png and thats the crit I got in that opener. Shattering + Skull banner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabloks View Post
    Right I know that, but this week on IJ GT proc'd AoC before it even hit IJ.

    http://i.imgur.com/aclmonk.png Proc'd from just the GT before it even hit.

    http://i.imgur.com/sFOOo4c.png Here is GT hitting nearly 2 seconds later

    http://i.imgur.com/LtuHCf8.png and thats the crit I got in that opener. Shattering + Skull banner.
    Seeing those kind of crits is so strange as a hunter haha. Bit of a slight diversion here, I've pretty much been playing SV the majority of this tier, considering going back to BM in the future. What is an optimal opener on a fight such as Protectors/Shamans currently? Little rusty with that.
    Last edited by Alth; 2014-03-03 at 01:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabloks View Post

    http://i.imgur.com/LtuHCf8.png and thats the crit I got in that opener. Shattering + Skull banner.
    That is some insane rng iv never had a kill command hit that hard ever. I dont have h warforged TED though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alth View Post
    Seeing those kind of crits is so strange as a hunter haha. Bit of a slight diversion here, I've pretty much been playing SV the majority of this tier, considering going back to BM in the future. What is an optimal opener on a fight such as Protectors/Shamans currently? Little rusty with that.
    Same as I linked above but you multi shot asap to keep beast cleave up.

    Md
    pre pot
    multi shot (TED procs)
    BW + KC
    stampede/rapidfire
    multi shot
    barrage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kissthebaby View Post
    It depends if you have TED or not . Your opener that you linked is most ideal without TED, but with TED you want to BW KC as soon as it procs.

    Glaive toss
    Pre pot
    SrS(TED procs)
    BW + KC
    Stampede/rapid fire
    Dire beast
    Basically this and the one up above for cleave.
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    [QUOTE=Kissthebaby;25693799]That is some insane rng iv never had a kill command hit that hard ever. I dont have h warforged TED though.

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    Is it really that outta the ordinary..? I'de say atleast once or twice a fight i get a KC crit for about 1 mill a little higher maybe. I did run with a Mastery>Crit=>Haste Build and got a nice 1.6 milli. But I got yelled at by another hunter and called "Bad". Flex Allstars be trippin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReklessJonez View Post
    s it really that outta the ordinary..? I'de say atleast once or twice a fight i get a KC crit for about 1 mill a little higher maybe. I did run with a Mastery>Crit=>Haste Build and got a nice 1.6 milli. But I got yelled at by another hunter and called "Bad". Flex Allstars be trippin'.
    Nice crit.

    Definitely not worth necroing for tho (especially considering it's off-topic altogether). :/
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