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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    You complain about censoring and you attempt to bait him. Ironic.
    What does "bait him" mean? He's the one who is bastardizing my name.

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    I'm kind of impressed you're actually serious.
    Look up the definition of Censorship.

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    What does "bait him" mean? He's the one who is bastardizing my name.
    Looks like a big forum error to me.


    Look up the definition of Censorship.
    You are wrong. That isn't censorship. Deleting a thread "Ghostcrawler should go in a cave and die" is basically a threat or wanting someone to die. There's no fucking excuse for that. You are if anything apologizing for bad behavior.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SL1200 View Post
    Look up the definition of Censorship.
    Though on this term, you could discuss it, but you would have to look up the guidelines. You can discuss any term, as long as you keep it civil.
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    "Ghostcrawler should go in a cave and die" Is not a threat it's an opinion. Not my opinion, but an opinion.

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    Freedom of speech does not imply freedom to say or do whatever you want without consequences. You have the right to have any opinion you want, but if that opinion is insulting, hostile, rude or disrespectful, it will be moderated and by moderated I mean either censored as a preventative and protective measure for other users or punished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shangalar View Post
    Freedom of speech does not imply freedom to say or do whatever you want without consequences. You have the right to have any opinion you want, but if that opinion is insulting, hostile, rude or disrespectful, it will be moderated and by moderated I mean either censored as a preventative and protective measure for other users or punished.
    I believe you since you live in Croatia. In America that's considered protected speech. The forum of course can make whatever rules they like.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SL1200 View Post
    "Ghostcrawler should go in a cave and die" Is not a threat it's an opinion. Not my opinion, but an opinion.
    Though just below you have a good explenation to just one view of a moderator.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shangalar View Post
    Freedom of speech does not imply freedom to say or do whatever you want without consequences. You have the right to have any opinion you want, but if that opinion is insulting, hostile, rude or disrespectful, it will be moderated and by moderated I mean either censored as a preventative and protective measure for other users or punished.
    Just because a thread goes, "Ghostcrawler should go in a cave and die" (using that example), doesn't mean that it has to be worded so. This is what I would call on the border of problematic posting, and should be moderated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SL1200 View Post
    "Ghostcrawler should go in a cave and die" Is not a threat it's an opinion. Not my opinion, but an opinion.
    It's telling someone to die. That's pretty much a death threat of some sort. That isn't tolerated here and it shouldn't be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SL1200 View Post
    "Ghostcrawler should go in a cave and die" Is not a threat it's an opinion. Not my opinion, but an opinion.
    I agree with some of the issues you are raising but in fairness what is the point of discussing such an opinion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pann View Post
    I agree with some of the issues you are raising but in fairness what is the point of discussing such an opinion?
    The point is, when you disallow certain opinions, won't allow certain discussions, you do more harm than good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SL1200 View Post
    The point is, when you disallow certain opinions, won't allow certain discussions, you do more harm than good.
    By that logic we should be able to discuss how Tom Chilton is a gay lover and a bunch other things. Your logic is messed up. There are some things that aren't valid discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    By that logic we should be able to discuss how Tom Chilton is a gay lover and a bunch other things. Your logic is messed up. There are some things that aren't valid discussion.
    What exactly would be the harm? Does Tom Chilton need you to protect him? He's not a teenager or a child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SL1200 View Post
    The point is, when you disallow certain opinions, won't allow certain discussions, you do more harm than good.
    But, previous title in discussion, that is not a constructive creation of discussion. The guidelines are there to assist and protect the users. Previous thread in discussion could have been viable, but it is common sense that you don't on a public forum discuss the topic of someone needing to die.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SL1200 View Post
    The point is, when you disallow certain opinions, won't allow certain discussions, you do more harm than good.
    I do not see how allowing such topics of conversation would result in anything other than an argument and potentially libellous statements being thrown around nor do I see prohibiting them as harmful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SL1200 View Post
    I bet you think this is a wise and clever response, it's not. Censorship is bad.
    Making 1000 threads about the same topic, all going "QQ Blizz bad and needs to stop being bad, and I am mad" etc. are not productive. It's not censorship they can go to the other threads to vent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cFortyfive View Post
    Moderation isn't very rigorous around here so the only issue you might have is coming from the general audience that might be different than on a more gaming oriented board not dedicated to a specific title.
    Its selectively rigorous, imo. Some of the mods are lenient and fair, while others will infract you just for disagreeing with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SL1200 View Post
    I believe you since you live in Croatia. In America that's considered protected speech. The forum of course can make whatever rules they like.
    Even in America there are special cases where "freedom of speech" is limited to not being disrespectful. I tried reading about it a bit now, but there are too many lawsuits that would require me to read stuff I'm not interested in

    Of course, the situation is different, our judicial system is based on rules and principles with known consequences and without deviation unless the legislative government changes it. In the USA there are so many things set by precedents that it can get very confusing. For me it's just common sense that I can think someone's a total *any-set-of-expletives* while publicly stating my dislike because of reasons I can politely argue about and get punished if I use the first option publicly. I don't think that rules about this encroach on my freedom of speech.

    Still, as you said, MMO-Champion is a semi-private forum and when you apply you accept that posting here is subject to rules and regulations and that your ability to use the board is a privilege and not a right. If we remove corruption from the discussion, most rules are there to protect users from other users. For example, I don't have any taboo subjects in my brain, I wouldn't mind seeing hardcore pornography here, but just because I don't have a problem with it, doesn't mean that it's appropriate for all users and we as moderators are obliged to protect everyone equally. Equally in this case means that everyone is able to post or read these forums without suffering any kind of gender, race, sex, class, disability, religion, nationality or whatever attacks.

    Imagine going down the street and telling people honestly what you think and feel. I can't, because I'd probably get stabbed by the second person I meet. It's the same in an online community. We need to strive to be civil and polite and to think first, even if it's the last thing we want or feel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iceberg265 View Post
    Its selectively rigorous, imo. Some of the mods are lenient and fair, while others will infract you just for disagreeing with them.
    Overall I would say that moderation across all the MMO-C forums is pretty good but, without going into too much detail, what you describe that rules are selectively enforced is most certainly an issue in the WOW sections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceberg265 View Post
    Its selectively rigorous, imo. Some of the mods are lenient and fair, while others will infract you just for disagreeing with them.
    My perspective is that it's not about you disagreeing, it is how you disagree. Civility is important for discussion, if you can't maintain it while participating in a discussion then you need to be remove from said discussion.
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